Why Mac Sucks: Top 10 Reasons Why Macs Blow, And Why Apple Loves Sh*t-Talking Articles Like This One
1. The only business model for Apple is narcissism. Its true. And for what its worth, the only “geniuses” that work for Apple are the members of their marketing team, because holy hell, we all know that the best way to sell a product in this day and age, especially to Americans, is to patronize their self-righteous beliefs. There are only 2 types of people that buy a Mac:
1) Wannabe nerdy-types that are trying to prove how knowledgeable they are about everything in the tech world
2) Wannabe hipster-types that are trying to prove how knowledgeable (read: trendy and/or “not trendy”) they are about everything in general
Either way, people who are confident enough in their knowledge, self-image, and skills rarely find it necessary (or justifiable) to buy one of these disgustingly over-priced machines. Which brings us to…
2. Macs are ridiculously overpriced. Not only do you get much less for your money when you buy ANY type of Macintosh computer compared to your other options, but you get royally screwed whenever you want any halfway-decent Mac machine. Compare 17-inch MacBook Pros starting at an astounding $2500 with thousands of 17-inch alternatives starting at just $599. This is partly because Apple price-fixes their products so drastically, but is mostly because they’d rather tell you what packages are available instead of letting you decide what works best for you. Hmm… what does that sound like?
3. Macs regularly ignore mainstream industry trends. Where to begin? Because of all the political (read: snobby) games that Steve Jobs gets involved with, most Macs still don’t have HDMI ports, eSATA ports, or BluRay drives, among other mainstream technology standards. Instead of HDMI, for example, they opt for out-of-date DVI ports (but of course only on the MacBook Pro models). This attitude is best summed up by Apple’s 2-decade-long push for world-wide FireWire data ports, which Apple finally dropped many years after its defeat to USB 2.0 was already obvious. (P.S. Apple invented FireWire…)
4. Mac OS X is merely a locked down version of open-source Linux. Its easy to assume that over 90% of Mac owners are not only unaware of this, but don’t have a clue what Linux is. Turns out that back in 1996, after Steve Jobs’ short-lived company NeXT stole its OS base from open-source (read: FREE) BSD Unix, it resold the now proprietary OS to Apple which then became OS X. Perhaps if OS X had the flexibility of Linux, or if Mac fanboys didn’t use Linux concepts (i.e. Terminal) as reasons to brag about OS X, there wouldn’t be so much smearing to do. (Warning: do NOT attempt ask any Mac fanboys about this, or they will ignore your question and start babbling about things like Firefox.)
5. There is no right-f*cking-click! Mac fanboys will respond to this by saying “actually you CAN get a 2-button mouse now!” but even when that is true, the EFFING RIGHT CLICK STILL DOESN’T DO ANYTHING. Oh, cool, I can copy and paste! Oh wait, but I can’t perform any other damn functions in Photoshop or otherwise. And crap, I forgot which combination of 5 keys I need to hold down for right click to work on my 1-button mouse? (Don’t even ask how to make the Delete button actually delete something…)
6. The Dock, and general screen layout, is retarded. Again, where to begin?…
- The clock doesn’t display a date. That’s cool, cuz I only wanted to remind myself again that today is Monday.
- The Dock concept is cute, yet still, retarded. You not only can’t see any of the windows that you have minimized, but you also can’t truly adjust the way The Dock behaves or appears. According to Stan, its based on 1984 technology when only 1 program could run at a time. Pretty sweet.
- Trying to “X” out of a program doesn’t close it, it simply minimizes it. Just like the minimize button. Except it begins to kill your CPU after you’ve done it a few times by keeping programs running as ghosts. (Total genius.)
- Trying to alt-tab through your windows cycles through every single window of every single application one at a time instead of cycling between alternative applications (read: time-killer).
- Maximizing a window doesn’t actually maximize it. This is fun, cuz then I get to constantly click on things on the Desktop that I am definitely not interested in.
- Opening 100 images in the Mac image viewer opens 100 separate windows. (No comment.)
- You can’t drag files around to new destinations such as applications on The Dock or other directories without first preparing both source and destination windows so they are both visible. (Still, no comment.)
- etc, etc, etc
7. “It just… doesn’t work.” (Macs crash, freeze, and have evil viruses.) I thought I would dispel all the Mac lies in one sentence, so there you go. If you have ever tried to open Photoshop along with a few other programs on a Mac, you will know this frustration well. More often than not the little rainbow wheel will starting spinning like crazy – that, or your Mac will simply freeze. This is because Macs can’t handle multi-tasking very well (although the issue has been improving, according to some). What hasn’t been improving though is the increasing amount of viruses being found on Macs. Sure, we could play the word game and clarify the difference between trojans and viruses, but the point is that Macs are no safer than any other computer, especially since they ship with their firewall turned off.
8. Software and hardware options for Mac are lame, or slim at best. This is not an overstatement. I am the first to admit that the iTunes/iPod combination is pretty tight (with AAC disabled!). But that’s about it. Mac Mail, iPhoto, GarageBand, iChat, Quicktime, and the rest of the bundled Mac software mostly just sucks, or is extremely limited in what it can do. Luckily some programs like VLC and CuteFTP have recently started to offer Mac versions of their software, but good luck trying to find Mac versions of most popular freeware. Not only that, but their claim that “no hunting for drivers is needed” is only true because barely any hardware is made for Macs! For example, only the Airport Extreme card works with Macs but other PCI cards will not. Thus, if someone needed 802.11a, they would need to buy a (very) costly Ethernet adapter.
9. Gaming, and graphics in general, suck on Macs. All true gamers already know this, so it really doesn’t require much explanation. Let’s just say that GizModo’s latest check confirmed that this is still true, even on the most expensive graphics card that MacBook Pro currently offers.
10. Macs are not flexible or customizable. This is a vague way to end things, but mostly because its the only way to sum up all the things that are wrong with Macs. We’ve already seen that you can’t customize their hardware or software, and that you can’t even use the Linux functions that *should* be present on any Linux distro. But even within Mac’s little world itself, you can barely change any options on their OS, user interface, The Dock, directory layout, etc. But hey, as long as the only thing you want to do is change your desktop wallpaper to be the photo you took at the latest indie rock show you attended, then by all means, buy a Mac.
For being so “progressive” Apple sure does seem like one stubborn-ass company. Oh, and please note that hating Macs doesn’t make you a Windows fanboy. It just makes you a reasonable person. =)
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There are right clicks… Clearly you don’t know what you’re talking about. Half the problems you mentioned can be changed, and the other half were fixed by the M1 mac.
Macs are like baseball, take to dang long and to much butt backwards tradition. All the user friendly changes just make for more reviews and head scratching. Get off those darn scooters and out of your own heads . There world is full of computer dummies who don’t need a book to let’s know that fact.
well it’s 2022 now. I’m a technical director and own a computer repair. The original post still stands true. What a self pride a mac still is. hell when it gets so so so slow, the person thinks it’s time to buy a new one. Well that’s even worse now, cause they now make you buy a new one cause everything stops working little by little if you don’t go spend another 2500.00 etc. Windows has now adopted this stupid path since 10. I ran a web server in 1999 based on the FREE BSD os and as far as apache and perl, eventually php everything was tight. But to take that OS and bill it with an overlay as MACOS and charge for it along with numerous data collection accounts, what garbage. How many freaking times does an owner have to put in several different passwords to use their own machine that they are already logged into does a secure system need. I know this is fruitful for a hacker to make a user put in their passwords over and over during a piggy back. This very old post nailed it, and it most of it remains true in 2022. Do i really have to enter a password to install after I just did that to log in. It seems computers protect themselves more from the owners than outside intruders. The poor old folks that are convinced by their soyboy kids they need a mac and they’ll never have an issue. lol. They can’t even start up the first time due to all the account creation and circular motion that occurs leaving them utterly confused and unable to use the damned machine. That goes for tablets, phones, and all new tech devices. And it’s now windows and google and amazon crap doing the same thing. Basically these types of purchasers are chasing a carrot in front of the horse and going in circles and getting nowhere. Turns out paper files and filing cabinets are much more efficient now that common core has taken precedence in development.
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2020 MAC experience in enterprise. I got a macbook user can’t login, perhaps client cert expired and user can’t login to the AD because it can’t authenticate to the Active Directory… So simple , but when you have a local user, what can login… Single user mode not working, recovery can’t authenticate to the network, and public wifi need post connect authentication, which not supported at ALL…
After all these fails, i managed to dig out with help of multiple systems some installation user password and finally logged in… The standard local user’s password forgotten, tried to change it not possible, says user is disabled, but there is no option to enable. In gui no option at all, in terminal the user detail mostli the encoded jpeg image, which mandatory for the users in High quality, the status bar want to write every single line of the damn encoded jpeg, which took 5 minutes until i could stop the terminal, with the newest amazing track pad, which can do everything EXCEPT moving the cursor and click. The keyboard totally illogical and very good feeling to use terminal without function keys. The only good thing in macs the “limited” terminal… Which gives back ridiculous messages for ages old unix commands like passwd , enable the user before resetting the password, but there is no enable or disable function…
Well to download a new cert and change a local user on linux takes 1-5 minutes with boot, on MAC it was not possible, and just to read the user infos, took 10 minutes with images, and could not do anything because to write all lines on the keyboard status line, it had to be slow enough , and enough fancy to freeze. So solution was create new local user and delete the old then rename to old… And all guis are totally illogical and make people crazy, against any normal human thinking, window handling still trash, a free operation system, made by community ages better than this XXXX , and don’t think simple things like in windows, to reach the root folder in file manager you need rape your own mind to find the free text address bar in top of the screen in 3 submenus… Totally useless, macbook pro with macos piece of XXXX…. Maybe with other operation system, external keyboard and mouse it can work… After all logout took 5 minutes… screen freezing… This is MACOS. You can buy a life time pass to a very personal torture chamber for less money and more pleasure, I can’t believe people like it and make this product still alive and growing. Simple things totally illogical, and consume 100 times more wasted times… I had more fun with 486DX100 in 1994 than with a macbook pro in 2020
iPhones are pretty decent, but Mac OS absolutely SUCKS.
I’m in 6th grade, and my school is grades 1-8. But since third grade, I’ve been FORCED to use a Mac, and they keep crashing and/or lagging. Heck, how long will it take for my school to realize that Windows 10 is SO much better?!
I KNOW, right? It’s so weird. Mac fanboys say it’s easier to use, but that’s because ease of use means “I wanna hold 5 key combos at once to turn on my PC!” type thing.
I just bought a new 2019 MacBook Pro, and an accessory package
for $2650.00. MmThe most I have ever paid for a limp of Horse
‘S**t ! I could pick a piece up off the road for NOTHING ! AND that
is what this macbook pro is “NOTHING” complete with IDIOTIC
“touch bar”, more s**t ! Apple get back to basixs, ans get sme holes back kn the sides, for ethernet, discs, printer etc.
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Just paid too much for a mac book pro (not new) and LINUX any thing IS WAY better. I would rather use an android….f**k mac
My parents decided to buy me a Mac. Why? I don’t know. They said it was for studying. I don’t study on computers, Why do i have a phone then? I am really a gamer and i play alot of games. mostly on PC. but since i got this crappy ass s**t. I can’t play anything. I may play games like world of tanks and war thunder. but i can’t play games i like like arma, Digital Combat Simulator. it’s just cancer. If you parents want to buy you a computer. Please tell them to buy you a windows. You may not use it for studying. But you are gona have a good time gaming. Don’t buy it.
I’ve had to use one since I was seven I will finally build my own PC to use tomorrow
I KNOW RIGHT HOLY F**K MY SCHOOL MADE ME BUY A MAC (not suppy) BUY A MAC AND IT IS BARELEY FUNCTONAL the first time i had it they school downloaded a antivirus ya know MACKEEPER A FUCKING VIRUS and the entire thing wiped when i bumped the corner (TRHOUGH A FUCKING HUGE CASE) and the whole hard drive wiped and the second time the screen scratched over and over FOR NO REASON i barley use it and just flat out HATE IT APPLE NEEDS TO CLOSE AND GET THE F**K OUT ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS (its an old one) IS NOT EXUSEABLE FOR THIS SHITTY PREFORMACE PLUS THE 80 DOLLAR CHARGERS LAST MAYBE A MONTH WHILE WALKING AROUND CAMPUS SO WOOOOHOOO I HAVE SPENT 3000 DOLLARS ON THSI PEICE OF S**T THAT DOESENT WORK
sue your school.
PLEASE.SUE YOUR FISHING SCHOOL
I have been a long time UBUNTU user, I have just brought a used mac book air with the intention of swapping out the HDD and installing Linux. Getting into the BIOS utility is difficult especially if you want to use something like safe mode or choose a temporary startup device like an external hard drive with an operating system already installed. I even find windows better at the moment.
I think the only thing mac has going for it is the way it’s hardware looks.
I’m forced to use a PowerMac for work and I FUCKING HATE IT. It does so many things poorly I won’t even start to type them out. But I 100% agree with this post. F**k Apple
Just got my Macbook Pro 13” 2018 with everything maxed out. It costs me almost $3000 with applecare and tax. The built quality is definitely the top notch. Besides that, it is just a $3000 web browser machine. I will return it tomorrow.
Typo: $3000 -> $4000
hey panini dont you be a meanie
I physically couldn’t agree with you more. writing this on a Mac I’m about to sell because it is utter s**t. all I had to do was open Roblox on my fabulous wifi and it crashed the computer and restarted. this happened continuously. not to mention the fucking keys XD they get stuck so easily I mean I haven’t even eaten over it or anything. also it randomly won’t update to Monterey and it should thanks apple for FUCKING NOTHING. oh yeah also the number eight doesn’t work because a speck of dust got underneath the keys and now it won’t press down. genius design apple.
I agree, Macs aren’t only dual core piles of steaming s**t, they are absolutely retarded. they’re charging several thousand dollars for office computers which i find disgusting, not only are they s**t, the os is just gross. for 2000$ you can get a nice computer that would load in seconds and preform faster than any mac can ever dream of.
Well, I use a MacBook Pro about 2 months now. What can I say (considering that my 2nd machine is Asus with Ubuntu onboard and attempting to be fair): Mac is more polished in all departments – the design, the Mac OS, Apple infrastructure, etc. Again, I’m trying to be fair. But the question occurs: does it much better than any other design, OS, etc? I’m not sure. It’s not more likely. To be honest the Ubuntu OS is not worse than Mac OS. Yes it’s not so perfectly polished but it’s not worst absolutely. So it’s all up to you – pure design vs pure utility.
hate my macbook from first day and after 4 month of using it
Macs are for those spoilt little stuck up brats who think that gaming can be successful on a frickin right click only PC. Wait Mac isnt even a pc. Whhat a retarded pos
My Late Dad and I both bought Macs because we were sick of all the malware. I find that, other than browser hijacks like searchbenny and searchmoose, viruses have not been an issue. My PCs had Multiple viruses and worms, and the antivirus software slowed them down, without blocking anything. Of course, Linux is even safer than a Mac. The spinning beach ball of Death, however, IS a constant problem! WORSE-reliability is a serious issue. One of my 2011 Macs is Dead, and the “Genius” told me today they would charge $800 to fix it. My Ipad, he said, isn’t even Worth fixing (2013.) He told me to take it to “Apples and Oranges.”
Well, I said bye to my iPhone SE and bought Blackberry phone again. It’s my 5th or 6th Blackberry actually. I was really (I mean REALLY) pissed of by Facebook app for the iPhone. Every tucking day the app asked me for permission to access my phonebook (I disabled this function when setting up my account). Finally, the app stopped to work: the banner practically switched off application for 35-40 min. I clicked “No” button for 20-30 times without any success. What the heck is that? Ok, I gave up finally and closed my Facebook account and after that I sold my iPhone. I still don’t have a FB account but at least FB and Twitter links were integrated in Blackberry OS and I can use them anytime I want.
The second problem is my iPod Touch 6 battery. Ok, my iPod is pretty new (guaranty is expired) but the battery life is absolutely TERRIBLE. Just 2,5 hours of internet (no streams, music, etc) and I need to recharge it again. There are no games, apps and ofher s**t installed. The bottom line: think twice before you buy any (especially Apple) gadget.
Ok, a little update. It turns out that everything is ok with the battery. My iPod perfectly works about 5 hrs in red zone. So as I see it was a software bug. Ok, I’d like to be fair: the situation is actually better than I thought. Gone to Apple store for MacBook Pro (just kidding).
Don’t buy a blackberry buy an android its faster than an iPhone and a blackberry
100% agree with all that has been said. A MAC is an overpriced POS. Sad that you cannot even rotate a picture to the right … there IS no “function” on a MAC that permits this. I hate PCs but at least they WORK … it’s too bad that they feature an “error message” every 10 minutes, but … oh, well
Are you running windows vista?
I agree with all of this. For those of you dumbasses who say, “The software is so much easier to use,” it’s not. Also, if you’re so obsessed with MacOS, get a fucking hackintosh
Haha it’s only easier for idiots who need stuff to be “prettier” and “smoother” but with the complete lack of efficiency and function. Macs are for pretentious douche nozzles.
DICK BRAIN USERS SOF MAC, THEIR SYSTEM IS FULL OF SHITE. I WENT FROM WINDOWS TO MAC ON THE ADVISE OF MY SON. SHITE SHITE SHITE SHITE SHITE SHITE SHITE SHITE SHITE SHITE SHITE SHITEMAC. NOTHING IS COMPATIBLE WITH MAC NOTHING, FULL OF SHITE SHITE SHITE SHITE
Why would your son advise that
Macs are good for people who want to use computers bu do not want to know too much about them (my wife). Trouble is, some of them at some point upgrade themselves to the level when they start understanding few things about computers (my wife). Then there are these poor sods (like me) trying to explain that there are trade-offs (…you cannot look under the hood … so if the car does not start .. buy a new one!). You can try to keep your system stable, then Apple announces the new spanking shining system upgrade .. and most of the apps stops working … because my wife allowed the upgrade (Apple is Always Right.Right?). BTW Neither MAC OS X nor Mac OS have simple design. They are bust stealing ideas from Linux but they are not bust enough …
ok nobody listen to my brother-reliable225 he’s frickin 13 years old and I’m 11 yet I have more knowledge than him first of all a lot of the things listed in this Wikipedia is so untrue my brother has owned a mac before and I have used it for 3 weeks and I have received no virus whatsoever yes I agree it’s a great computer but I don’t like it as much as my dell setup I respect your opinions and please don’t listen to my brothers he’s being crazy
Hey, dont use Wiki, caus anyone can leave a note there(i could go now to macbook page and leave something like “complete shite” and it will just show and people believes). By the way i just dont understand people buying expensive rubbish over cheap diamond(i saw a Acer thats 14k rand but with an iCore 8250U and a Mac for 22k rand and that mac’s specs are a joke, like hey lets spend another 8k to get a -0.2GHz), and people tries to remember infinity combos of keys just to copy and paste(I tried and its stupid AF)
Good stuff. Been working as a computer engineer for decades now and this is only the tip of the iceberg as to why all mac stuff sucks. iPod may be the only decent thing they ever made and even it was ten times the price it needed to be. F**k all people who use these fucking toys.
Sick of my Mac! My Macbook Pro is full of glitches and viruses. I thought Apple was a safe buy? But that was years ago! Spend money on tech support and things just get worse! Don’t choose any Apple products anymore! That’s why “Woz” bailed!!!
Has this guy actually done any research at all into this before publishing this article? I ask this seriously because it is so factually inaccurate it it beggars belief!! You don’t have to be a fan of Apple or Macs but seriously, at lot of what is written here is just utterly and completely untrue. I won’t go into every point here but just to squash a few…
1. That they crash and freeze all the time and get viruses. I’ve been using Macs for over 25 years now and I have never had a virus once. Yes that’s right, not a single one. As for crashing and freezing, again totally and completely wrong. Back in the old days of OS9 it could occasionally crash but in those days so could any PC!! I know this because I used them also. But now, it is very very different story. OSX has been rock solid for me, it never ever crashes or freezes and in my line of work it is quite typical to have many apps open simultaneously.
2. About being overpriced. I have to seriously doubt this. The initial outlay may look expensive but I have realised how long they actually last. I’ve seen many friends needing to upgrade or buy new PCs several times during the years that I’ve had one Mac! And I’ve not sold on my other old Macs either because they STILL can be very useful in the studio. So bearing in mind how many years worth of use I get out of them, you’re not really convincing me they’re overpriced.
Oh you can’t upgrade any hardware?? Mmm.. that’s odd because I’ve been doing that for years.
People that use Macs constantly get accused of being ‘devotees’ or ‘fanboys’ or other such absurd immature nonsense. I think this only goes to show that it’s the non Apple users that seem to have the bigger problem. Hey, if you don’t like Macs, it’s fine, just don’t use them! Get over it. Worry about something worth worrying about.
The reason I use Macs is because I was introduced to them when I was studying. Macs were what the college had when I was studying graphics over 25 years ago. I had never used one prior to this. So there was no devotion or fanboy crap, they were simply the tools that were there. They were easy enough to use and I found them to be reliable, I had no particular reason to avoid them so just continued to use them. I’m also recording musician and a Mac is at the heart of my DAW. So why would I change when my overall experience has been good, and absolutely nothing like this retarded article? Why the hell would I want to throw away a stress free and productive workflow just because some PC nerd is trying to convince himself that Macs are no good?
I’m going to get back to my work now, virus free, no crashing or freezing, no having to work out why this bit of software won’t work or why that piece of hardware wont longer work. I’m a creative and like to get on with my work, stress free and without needing a PhD in computing! – I couldn’t do that on my PC!
Oop, let me take a screenie of that and send it to all of my friends so we can laugh at your stupidity and autism. Oh no! I CAN’T DO THAT BECAUSE THE SCREENSHOT FUNCTION ON THE MAC IS SO DAMN COMLICATED! Oh, did I misspell that word? I’ll just left click on it it like you do on a PC and change it! OH WAIT…. YOU CAN’T DO THAT! Now I’ll go, because I have an update scheduled for 12 PM. OH WAIT! THIS ISN’T A PC! IT WON’T AUTO UPDATE! I better get to the “Dock” and hit shut down! OH WAIT…. THERE’S A CHROME LABEL AND AN APPLE LOGO! Any rational man would not hover over the Apple Label because it looks like a harmless label! OH WAIT! IT’S NOT! IT’S ACTUALLY A BUTTON! Oh well…. I guess I’ll minimize this tab to make the Dock more simple! OH WAIT! MY CHROME BROWSER IS FULL SCREEN RIGHT NOW! Can’t minimize this right now! My hands hurt… BECAUSE I”M TYPING ON THIS TINY AF KEYBOARD!!!!! I’d die of laughter if this fool responded and said that these are the only problems that Mac OSX users experience…
+Kirby well technically mac is not at all bad you need to learn how to respect people’s opinions and also please calm down with the “OH WAIT” s**t seriously you clearly don’t own a mac or you simply just used it and tried playing a PC GAME ON A FUCKIN MAC and you decided to be an idiot and spam things that are so untrue the only reason you started spamming is because it doesn’t have games that you desire so CHILL OUT
bill please I don’t care what u have to say f**k your stupid Mac and most importantly f**k your stupid comment b***h
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Had to comment on this.
I am currently in a position where I have no choice but to use a Mac. After 15+ years of developing commercial apps for Windows I moved to Linux for everything except games and I dual boot to do that, and the sudden culture shock is terrible.
The Mac has 16G of Ram, a 3.4 Ghz I7 and an NVidia 680MX with 2G.
It is total rubbish.
It has crashed multiple times when using PS or playing even the most basic games. The “Magic” mouse is a laughable POS – I mean seriously? A charging port on the BOTTOM! Is Apple aware what YEAR this is? We’ve been using chargable stuff for a long time now, and since the start its been important to allow use WHILE CHARGING! It is stunning that such a large company can get things like this so badly wrong.
As for price – don’t be so foolish – A ‘reasonable’ spec Mac costs almost 3 times as much as a high end gaming PC and next to nothing runs on it. I have over 200 games on my Steam account on the PC and 50 of them run on the Mac and ALL of those run badly.
It would appear that Apple have changed things just because they want to be different and in doing so they have simply broken the Linux base they stole in the first place and as for the ‘Terminal’ on a Mac, forget it – over half of the commands are simply missing, but of course you can PAY Apple for those programs which are free on the Linux base OS.
Every. Single. Thing that I have used is broken in some way, from the pathetic mouse where the right click does not work like any other mouse that exists, to the childish Dock junk that takes up the bottom of the desktop and is about as helpful as an umbrella in a hurricane.
Bleating on about how good Macs are and how well they work is very much like Microsoft saying you don’t need a virus checker because the built in security works, and we all know that MS security is like a massively fortified vault door standing alone in a field!
Iv never been a fan of Apple because they always seem to be overpriced, pretentious, self serving garbage, but having actually spent time with a Mac I now actively loath the company and the broken OS they have created.
Is it usable? Yes, so long as you don’t want to do anything serious and don’t mind the “We know best” attitude to updating and the OS without checking if the machine can actually handle it, and of course, if you don’t mind spending 5 times the amount for rubbish Apple programs. Even browsers don’t work properly on this POS.
Thankfully I will return to my glorious Linux kit soon enough, and I will be able to play games on Windows. After all the years I spent developing for DIRE MS OS’s it takes a hell of a lot for me to say that Im looking forward to returning to it, but even Windows 10 outshines a Mac in every single way, regardless of the need for third party security!
I have been using Windows for at least 25 years and linux for 20. Never have gotten a virus either. In both of our cases, it is not due the OS but probably smart choices on what you click, download, and install. Also, you used to be able to upgrade Macs but now you cant. They solder EVERYTHING in now, so you cant change the nvme, memory, wifi chip, nothing. S**t, you cant even get them open anymore without destroying it. ifixit gave the new Macbooks the worst rating for fixability. With the new Macs, you get what you get and there is no way to upgrade them without doing some serious work. Also, the keyboards suck and break all the time, the cpus are severely underclocked due to terrible thermal designs, it gets hot as hell, doesnt have a GPU,only has 3 USB C ports, one charges it, need a box full of expensive dongles to do basic stuff, and the upgrades for the OS consistantly bork software so you cant use it until the devs rewrite the code and publish it. They are just honestly really expensive and shiney pieces of feces. One of the worst laptops I have ever seen in my life and there is nothing “Pro” about them.
You f#cking pos macs are complete garbage over priced s**t. $1100 for a crappy mac with a dual core i3 processor 8gb of non upgradeable ram. WTF
so when your mac got slow you just bought a new one?? that explains point 1. Glad you are rich. With all the os upgrades every 6 months the machine becomes ineligible to move forward and suddenly everything no longer works on the software front, point 2. Time to buy another overpriced machine to stay relevant. Graphics? so the advertising still works for you? by doubling the pixel requirements on your screen everyone needs to now program websites with images twice as large in pixels just so it looks good on your machine that you can afford and your graphics look soooo good just for you? ugh. The only good thing mac ever did was allow intel processors and in some cases nvidia graphics. But you are locked in with those specs until you buy another machine. You should get up to 15 years worth of upgrades if needed at your leisure if you choose to, but no, that’s not going to happen with a mac. We’ve had to listen to the graphics thing from no idea purchasers since the day they advertised this as far back as 1980’s. Those poor companies had to replace all macs on the floor every year while pc companies produced games, graphics etc up to 3 or more years with good graphics cards upgrades. Mac on the other hand…… We had to convince our graphics department to finally go pc years ago since they were spending 100’s of thousands on annual upgrades, as they couldn’t match the photo realism images we were producing in the rendering and printing depts. Couldn’t color match because of one department, the one with macs. Once they switched the world was good for them. The advertising of the early 80’s somehow brainwashed all non computer folks that they are great because of graphics. Never really was true other than the original releases of pc based computers.
I bought a mac for animation, and in my free time i like to game. But i now see that games suck on the mac (fortnite freezes a lot) and no cool games are available to the mac OS sofware
I do travel around a lot, and it is light. Those are the two things good about this $3500 piece of crap
You can get lighter and better PCs for way cheaper though.
This is the probably the truest article I’ve ever read. I’m having to type up this comment from a Mac right now, and it glitches even trying to open simple websites. IT ISN’T EVEN A YEAR OLD. I literally can’t use some websites because it just glitches and lags.
ok, since this is my last time being here I just want to list a few things, mac is just an overpriced garbage that has no mouse wheel or right click (I understand that there is a heat sensors mouse wheel but come on it’s stupid u can’t click the mouse wheel), only dumpster divers would buy this trash and the dumpster of course is the apple company and the divers are mac fanboys that r so stupid to understand what apple stands for while it stands for s**t, even windows/Linux runs so much better, what the f**k is the point of having a mac it just runs on s**t, I plan to destroy the my Mac computer or sell it, I don’t want to waste time with a stupid deceased device called “Mac” that came out of a rabbit’s ass, so please for the love of God all u mac fanboys out there can f**k off, also I’m never coming back to this site again so all u mac fanboys and fanbitches don’t even bother replying to me with hate comments, if u do reply however then you’re stupid and can’t read, now that I listed the things I hate about mac I’m just gonna leave now also one more thing
MAC FUCKIN SUCKS AND F**K YOU MAC FANBOYS AND FANBITCHES
Hello FISH YOU RIGHT NOW YOU FISHED UP I AM NOT.SAYING I LIKE MAC I AM SAYING I HATE YOUR BAD LANGUAGE AT LEAST BE RESPECTFUL ABOUT IT A*****E
oh yeah and I meant “4.” On the mouse mistake sorry
and the keyboard is really small which brings me to another question- why would apple make this? honestly, I don’t understand what apple was thinking,now I’m not a mind reader but I can tell apple had nothing better to do so-1. they made the price too fuckin’ high, in fact so high I bet even a richest man on planet earth would regret wasting his money on this junk.2.they made the monitor too big.3. The keyboards unimaginably small.3.whats with the mouse? Honestly, they spliced the two buttons together without the mouse wheel, now there are other mistakes I would list here but I won’t due to offensive purposes, now I’m not trying to be an a*****e but come on.
ok i am used to windows but apple? I mean I have an iPhone but a computer? what has apple been thinking? I have a mac computer and it just doesn’t feel right because of the 2 buttons and the mouse wheel which really feels uncomfortable, however there are a few things that are good about it, but other than that-it sucks ass, it really does and I look forward to getting a new computer instead of this shitshow of a computer
This is totally true and is the best way to describe it… also you can block programs in google but not so well with Firefox.
@Jessie Great article, and I couldn’t agree with you more than I already do! I’ve had 2 macs, both have serious hardware issues. One the graphic processor constantly dies and shuts down the entire computer. This happens like 20 times a day, making the mac a boat anchor in less than 5yrs. Be smart, macs R nothing but hype…
My mac can’t even scroll trough instagram comments, but my PC does. I have many other programs on my mac and PC and they always crash on the Mac. Even though the PC is older…..
When I started with MacOS, the first weeks I’ve hated it. Other shortcuts, different keyboard layout and what happens if you try to write an @ on a Mac but are used to work with AltGr, should be known by everyone.
But with some time I got used to it and experienced many interesting applications from third-party developers who allowed me to change and optimize the OS like I want. Because of that I found applications who boosted my workflow like a rocket and also begun to understand the architecture from MacOS and why many stuff you think it is annyoing is just really clever.
I wouldn’t call myself a Mac-Fanboy, but still a fan. I don’t have problems against Windows or Linux, using them both, too. But it’s my favourite operating-system. And this comes from a heavy power-user of all three (OS) of them.
I develope most of the times web-applications and web-sites, support some open-source projects and optimize workflows and automatisms. For this workspace, it’s just perfect.
Who seeks a gaming or power-machine, should buy a PC. But who hast to develope or manage data, should think twice before giving up on such a smart OS.
The only and big disadvantage of a Mac in my eyes are currently:
– GPC/CPU drivers from Bootcamp.
– Apples focus on Metal and iPhone.
– And f**k yes, the overprice. (without the price I would mutate to a fanboy)
But the other stuff like mentioned in the article like viruses, freezes, problems and errors because of the lag of knowledge from the author are just bullshit. Working four years now with this OS, it only crashed on an old 2008 machine until I patched the GPU kernel. On a Late-2013 iMac I never had any issue with it.
Well, good for you! Unfortunately most of us are not GEEKS! Just folks who appreciate a useable computer!
I’ve owned a Mac since Mac II. Watched its downhill slifes! Bye, Bye Apple!
$1000 for the iPhone X? Are you serious? If you think so read this. https://www.pcmag.com/news/357207/teardown-reveals-iphone-x-parts-cost-370 Maybe it’s going to make you a little bit smarter.:)
So true. Apple is literally fucking all of their fanboys in the ass. They’re making a phone for $370, and selling it for $1100! Like WHAT THE ACTUAL F**K.
i never wanted a macbook, but my mum got me one for school ;(
Man I feel sorry for you I have a mac computer and it sucks ASS
Dear Microsoft Fanboy(s),
Most of you have used Windows from the beginning, which makes you feel Mac is uncomfortable. But I don’t agree with a few things:
1. Mac has right click, and you do not need and extra 2-button mouse just to right click. Just 2-finger click on the trackpad. (Of course there is an exception. When using an OS that is either not OS X or Windows, you may need to click at the right bottom of your trackpad instead of multi-touch)
2. Mac and macOS are not for gaming. If you really want to play high-graphical games (for example not Minecraft) go buy a PC and don’t hate macs just because they aren’t for you.
3. Did you say mac has lots of evil viruses? You are pretty unlucky if you get a virus on a mac because it is pretty hard to find viruses for mac(OS). There is even a built-in protection module just to protect you.
4. Macs’ feeling changes from person to person. So do not complain about the look of macOS.
5. Software doesn’t suck (at least compared to Windows, which is preloaded with crap). If you think it does, just get other software from the web or the app store!
Yeah, why have a reliable, foolproof button for right click, when you can use a software solution that decides when it works, which is only most of the time? On the track pad, and on the terribly designed mice they make nowadays? Yeah, Steve Jobs was a genius. That’s why he relied on mystical quackery until it killed him. Macs are overpriced, underdesigned trash.
Lol form doesn’t follow function you sit are retarded
Well, you are just simply stupid, that trackpad is pain in the ass… Each and each release it just getting worse regardless how many fingers you use the most simply point and click or drag and drop not works, harder to doubleclick than ever, you can make gestures and multifinger swipes, but you can’t move the pointer comfortable and click without a risk you will do a nasty operation you did not want. Overcomplicated without a single reason, I don’t like microsoft , but their operation system ages better than macos, ages means billion times better… The only good thing in macos is the terminal… Last time I felt operation system is a blocker in my daily activity was windows xp with popcorn making time bootups and shut downs , mac still in the same shoe after years. I can’t believe people are defending this holy s**t, if I would ever buy a thing like this first thing would be to install a linux and then use it (only because for windows I would buy any other laptop/tablets) Personally I have multiple surface pro’s and only the size and fanciness of the Macbook pros could be attractive, but the software and the peripherals suck that much make a good looking device totally unusable , and the operation system they come with is a complete catastrophic creation, I can’t believe you can’t connect to a wifi network and authenticate via browser at 2020 during the activation, that will be the first user experience, and after that you get a limited overpriced linux, where manuals not reflecting to apple’s customization to the BSD programs, complete trash at all, nice hardware but unusable. I like to see in movies they are doing crazy things on mac laptops in no time, in the reality you can do nothing in hours with them, powerful cpu for nothing, ram for absolute nothing. I am surprised apple could make a ARM architect operation system for phones and tablets, but their X86/AMD64 OS still suck after 20-25 years of development. At least microsoft could make their OS better and better over the time, what apple can show up? Nothing except nice windows and animations, just keep switching windows enjoy the animation and don’t try to do anything else, because it will be not satisfying at all. To be honest now I could see how bad the newest macos I am a windows and linux fan…. Not because i like microsoft, just because they make productivity and no pain to use, linux can’t be an OS for everyday unfortunately, but penetration is growing, I wait for the time when you can throw away windows and use eg debian for everything, but I think it will never happen. The IT sector would collapse if all people start using mac’s they are completely unusable , somehow can fit for daily use, but you will feel 10 years back in time with freezing/waiting.
You are defending a product what you buy, and you need to adopt to it, not the product or system will adopt to you, it completely stupid behavior buying a gear, which you need to adopt and that generate frustration. Last time people had to do this was communism, because there were 2 product both two did the same had the same quality, problems, but you could not select anything else. People inside force themselves to buy a product which overpriced , useless , and they need to adopt to it, well go out and shout loud PLEASE RAPE ME, well clever people don’t do this, clever people don’t buy macs….
Right click does exist on Mac. I copied and pasted this comment using it.
Remember the Movie “Independence Day” with Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum? We computer techs were laughing at one scene in particular… When Jeff Goldblum fives the alien ship a virus from his Mac laptop. Macs can’t even reliably communicate with PC’s, let alone an alien computer network!!!
I recently bought an Imac because in December I will be finished with my MFA and will be looking for a teaching job. All art departments use Apple so I figured that I better learn how to use one otherwise I might look like a fool trying to teach Adobe programs and not know how they work on an Apple. It’s close to windows but there are subtle differences. After 3 weeks with this new machine and many freeze ups. I have been using it as a paperweight. Literally. Windows 10 is bad but hey, it doesn’t freeze like a mac. Imac Specs are 27″ ,24 gigs of ram,250g ssd, and 2g vram. And it can’t handle simple Photoshop task. Screw Apple. I knew they had issues but at the level of power it should not freeze up ever. And the screen is sub par it only has 80% of the SRGB spectrum. I almost threw it out the window but I decided that ebay would net some money back. Apple’s are great if you never used anything else. But I need something that can handle 5 gig files and not freeze. My $700 Lenovo can.
This is blatant lie my old 2012 MacBook Pro handles photoshop perfectly. 4 gb of ram and 512mb vram in the gpu.
The screen on your “iMac” (I still don’t believe that you have one) also has 100% of the srgb spectrum. It covers 90% of Adobe RGB though, just like 99% of other monitors. To get one that does 100% you’re going to shell out probably over $5K.
Furthermore, if you actually worked in photoshop, you’d know that it’s not particularly useful to have that other 7% of the RGB spectrum, and you’d know that no Lenovo has a display that’s anywhere near as good.
Yep I have an iMac 27’’. No it uses Apples weird color space. It has issues with large files in the 5gig range. That’s right I scan 4×5 color film and a raw scan is over a gig. I print huge and need resolution for 30×40” prints. My Lenovo desktop is connected to a high end Eizo monitor. 99%rgb spectrum. Run a colorimeter on your screen and see what you get. I need everything wysiwyg. so I get a perfect print every time. Doubt you know much about that. It runs PS fine just not massive 5 g files. Doubt you know anything about that.
Cannot agree more.In all possible ways, Mac sucks! It only promotes snobbery and narcissism. Never will I buy anything Apple again!!!
Their hardware might be okayish, but the software, the keyboard and the ego- all sucks BIG time…
I just want to say for the record that yes indeed mac sucks and is just a locked down version of free bsd linux. The hardware is cheep chinese crap and the factory workers at foxcon hated their lives so much they jumped out the factory windows to their deaths and so the company had the “humane” idea to put up fish nets up catch them. How did something free and open source for humanity get locked down and sold to the dumbed down masses as the greatest computer system of all time. People say Steve Jobs is resting in peace but i think otherwise. More likely he is in karma hell……. working as one of the factory workers…… contemplating a quick way to end it all………pre-fish-net era.
Free BSD is Unix idiot. There is a difference. Unis uses the Unix kernel. Linux uses Linux kernel and Mac OS uses XTS kernel. The factory is at fault. Apple uses the same companies as Samsung, HP, Dell, and Windows.
That CR person seems to have an agenda and/or enjoys sexy times with his iGarbages. Am looking forward for another one of his/her wack fanboy/girl comment. But before doing so, DO NOT FORGET to put your iGloves, update your iTunes and rub yourself naked all over your (great) meurkintosh eco-system!
Oh yeah and allow me to end on something positive: an apple a day keeps the doctor away and with that in mind: apples are awesome <3
That CR person is trying to show us how to use these beautiful, shiny, extremely attractive chef d’oeuvres designed by the company you cannot compare to anything else (sarcasm). We should thank him actually (chances to meet a bona fide Apple supporter are pretty rare).
Welp, I can’t do anythıng because the retard who desıgned the mac keyboard must have only half a braın. For some damn reason there ıs absolutely no ‘at’ symbol. Instead ıt’s replaced by an apostraphy. Also ı had to substıtute apostarphıes for quotatıon marks because they don’t have those eıther on the keyboard. I was only able to post thıs comment by copyıng and pastıng the ‘at’ sıgn from the ınternet’ whıch ıs near ımpossıble wıth apple’s sıngle button mouse. I mean, ın thıs day and age, emaıl adresses are essentaıl for almost everythıng on the ınternet. If you own a mac, you get no emaıl, no facebook, no socıal medıa, no nothuıng! Tens of thousands of onlıne programs are ımpossıble thanks to the stupıd-ass lack af a sımple’at’ symbol on the dumbest keyboard of the dumbest computer ın the world. Oh and let’s not forget the mouse ıtself. It ıs so hard to move and the sesıtıvıty ıs so low you have to drag your mouse over the freakın’ desk to move ıt an ınch.
FYI the @ sign (see, I typed it?) is where it’s always been : right above the number 2. Have you not actually LOOKED at your Mac keyboard?
System Preferences / Mouse : Tracking speed (slider). Set to maximum (Fast).
Ooooh look. Your mouse is moving quickly across the screen. There. That wasn’t difficult, was it?
What the hell happened to your i’s?
I’m not a mac fan but got damn if you’re going to use a gross word like “retarded” you should probably make sure you can spell and use grammar so you don’t look like a complete dumbass.
F**k me lol. Typing on my girlfriend’s iPhone. God* damn autocorrect
Macs are okay for design purposes , more powerful than a windows machine but…… the moment u start having problems like system restore or having issues with permissions….it is over for you.. especially if u havent done weekly disk uitilities maintenance, force-quitted applications frequently. Macs dont like that, they turn against you. I dare any MAc user to try and launch from a LINUX live disc without having issues. yes there are mac versions of live linux discs but they dont work. yyesterday i downloaded over 20gb of various linux live discs to find a workaround to a problem im having. Tried once on a windows machine ….no problem. about 15 -20 years ago MAC was number 1 for me but since after stopping g5 titanium , they have gone down tremendously and now all you see everywhere are the stupid iMacs , which secretaries use in every hollywood blockbuster.
i know your not a mac fanboy anymore, which is good, but when you say ” Macs are okay for design purposes , more powerful than a windows machine”, and when, others say this too. Its utter utter utter utter rubbish. How is a MAC, better for designers, well..it isnt. The same programs are on PC (way more in fact) and run much faster. Arrrrrrrrrgh, the only reason why some artists tell you MACS are better is because they dont know how to use a pc, or they are trying to justify blowing a huge lump of cash on a lump of marketed tosh they have been TOLD is better, probably by another idiot who had been told the same thing. We are not talking about 30 years ago, when their were certain niche creative things you could do on a MAC, we are talking today, dont get ripped off kiddies.
To NoSheep: Absolutely agree. It’s just a marketing thing. Nothing more. And idiots are always be the idiots. It’s like the primitive man who saw a shiny thing for the first time.
MACS ARE GARBAGE
I just wrote a very long reply and inadvertently pressed the Fn key instead of the ctrl key where it would normally be on a PC. Guess what? I lost the lot. No undo. What MORON designs an OS that deletes the contents of a text box with no means of undo?
blahdy blahdy blahdy blah – fn key…
That’s weird. I just pressed fn. Then I pressed Ctrl. Then I pressed Alt. Guess what? It hasn’t deleted anything.
I have to use this and I am extremely ashamed of doing so. This ridiculous piece of trash I have to use is just… Stupid. As a gamer I find this as something disgusting where you can only play the so called ‘ROBLOX’ and other nasty 5 year old games. No blade and soul, No overwatch, Nothing.
I have to use this and I am extremely ashamed of doing so. This ridiculous piece of trash I have to use is just… Stupid. As a gamer I find this as something disgusting where you can only play the so called ‘ROBLOX’ and other nasty 5 year old games. No blade and soul, No overwatch, Nothing.
actually u can’t play ANYTHING ON MAC not even roblox it’s really complicated and of course the mouse is single buttoned and for some reason my mac computer is really stupid and says the games don’t have the specific graphics for the computer to read and this happens 15 times a day and it’s really F***ING ANNOYING AND STUPIDLY DISIGNED
I’m an engineer at Apple. Yes Macbook has cheap hardware enclosed in expensive-looking cases. But Apple knows it will sell very well, because there will always be people wasting their money on things they think are prestigious. Apple are targeting these type of people who are not yet extinct. In fact their population is increasing. The new niche market consist of the pretentious Asians who love wasting space at Starbucks with their Mac to look cool and pretending that they are doing important stuffs on it when in fact they are just browsing nonsense or doing other meaningless online stuffs.
OMG I TOTALLY AGREE!!!
Sorry Jeff. You’re not an engineer at Apple. No-one there has ever heard of you.
So, read this. Very informative. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/apple-tumbles-to-fifth-place-on-laptop-magazines-best-brands-ranking-for-2017-2017-04-11?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo
I can’t imagine how Apple ever managed not to be in LAST place except if they were PAYING for their rank. Their laptops should be listed as the worst, BELOW used and refurbished laptops that come pre-loaded with viruses.
It’s a question of time.
How can you write a Macs-suck page without ever mentioning the absolute nightmare thats is Launchd?
For those sensible people who have never used anything except FreeBSD, Launchd is a replacement for /sbin/init in which the init scripts are replaced by XML files. Also, launchd replaces crond too and probably also displays the system clock for good measure.
Before I was issued a Mac by my employer, I thought Linux’s Systemd was bad, but they were only aspiring to be as horrible as Launchd! Now I know what they were copying, and Systemd is nowhere near as awful as Launchd!
Remember when you could power off your Unix box and Postgresql would come right back up? Neither does Apple. I was forced to power off when my Mac suddenly stopped responding to most mouse and keyboard input (I could keep typing into the app that was open, but I couldn’t switch windows).
Because Launchd does away with shell scripts (which have long been the target of hipsters’ hate), there’s no way to tell Launchd that you have to delete Postgresql’s stale PID file before trying to start it again. There’s no way to say that in fucking XML. So it just kept trying to start Postgres over and over again, logging only that it failed each time. Jesus Fucking Christ is MacOS a fucking piece of s**t!
hehe, finally someone who has actually used Linux. osX is just bloated BSD, and it sucks just as bad as “windbloze”. However, for most users it is a better alternative to actually running an OS made by “microsucks”
MacOS is not a piece of s**t. But launchd IS.
Holy s**t on rye. I cannot believe you people are college-attending students and older … with a smattering of high schoolers. Your grammer, spelling, punctuation, phrasing, and overall grasp of writing is putrid. You people better get your act together. Nobody wants stupid assinine ignoramuses. Please improve your stinking self … or gently put down the keyboard and turn youself in to The Stupid Police. Thamnkgs,, amnd halve a nyce daayye … s**t for brains.
Funny how you are criticizing grammar, spelling, phrasing, and punctuation when you can’t seem to do it properly yourself.
I guess satire is totally wasted on you, Hugh Mungus.
THE BIBLE IS FALSE
victor that just came out random nobody was talking about the Bible dumbass go back to where you came from you trash for brains
I soooo much regret buying APPLE devices. I have had the BIGGEST HEADACHE trying to perform a SIMPLE TASK (what I thought would be!!!!) … buying an iPhone so that I can transfer my playlists onto an iPhone 6. Easy??? No BLOODY WAY!!!!!! I think climbing Mt Everest is an easier option. Who the F……. do they think they are. I am seriously thinking of selling my Mac pro and my three day old iPhone and going BACK TO SAMSUNG!!!!!!! Mac …. you are seriously up yourselves!!!!!!!!
Falcons blew a 25 point lead
The Donald Trump of Computers and the writer’s knowledge of Macs is about the same…zilch.
As of 07 January 2017, the cheapest Apple laptop, is the 13 inch macbook air, USD 1000, i5 1.6ghz, 8 gb ram, s**t video card, non-touchscreen. Vomit. Wow people are stupid. Who buys this crap?!
Just look at the OS market share. About 3% of users. I’m not saying that I don’t use Apple products. I use iPhone, iPod and Apple TV 4. But I’m not going to buy a Mac laptop. I’m absolutely satisfied with my Asus machine (especially after OS upgrade to Ubuntu).
I bought a Mac last year and it is the worst money I have ever spent. Right now all I have is a locked up Mac that won’t restart. So, I am going to have it repaired and then I am putting it into the closet where it will stay until I can give it to a friend who is visiting this summer. I will never buy Mac anything again
I agree. I am seriously going to get rid of mine. My crazy old Hp made production of visual calendars/cards etc for friends/and my own music downloads EEEEEEZZZZZYYYY!!!!!
MAC IS A MARKETING LEEEEAAAAAACCCHHH!!!! Sadly I fell for it, but fortunately I can ‘redo’!
Hey, very small percentage of Americans use Mac! Wonder why??
And I am so happy with my Macs! It was always more expensive to have quality.
take ultrabook 2016.
your prestige macbook air still uses tn panel while dell xps sports an ips panel. we all know which one is quality. both are similarly priced. ignorance is not a virtue.
Oh really? Build a desktop with a similar price and see which one wins.
There are also better pre-built laptops.
“Quality” means the fucking thing doesn’t freeze every 5 days, like my brand new Macbook Pro does, and no PC I’ve owned after 1998 ever did.
Quality? What quality?
The world would be a much better place without the bloody macs. I hate them specially because I’m using the bloody thing to work – it is simply an anourmous waste of bloody time. The shitiest pc with Windows can be better than mac.. actually, a screwdriver is better than mac. God how I hate this s**t.
AGREEEEEEEEE!!!!! Your comments are making me realise that I will sell my Mac laptop asap and get something that is fun, easy and gets the job done! I’m not a high tech CEO, don’t need to talk ‘Mac’ and look fancy pants!
I will put all of my heart and soul into this comment, hopefully I can counter as many fanboys as I can.
Albeit Macs may last, a well-kept Windows or Linux can last just as long, if not longer. Mac fanboys will say it takes effort to keep a PC alive, but really all it takes is common sense and care.
Let’s not forget that OSX is a copy of Linux, or more accurately Unix. Mac fanboys completely skip over this detail and start some bs about there isn’t a Linux phone/tablet/etc, when in fact Android is a Linux OS itself, and other Linux mobile devices also exist.
Mac fanboys also say Windows is hard to use, when OSX is no better, just in some different ways. If Windows is so bad, just install OSX on your PC. It will keep Windows, and it will run better than any actual Mac. Get a PC worth $4300, install OSX, and compare to the new Macbook Pro. Spoiler Alert: the PC will win.
Now, to build a defense. I won’t lie. I kinda like OSX. I greatly perfer Windows and Linux for reasons hopefully obvious. Hell, I use an Apple keyboard on my gaming PC. I am familiar with OSX in and out too.
Lastly, I need to touch on the sheer lack of stability in modern Apple products. My Windows hasn’t crashed since Vista, and that was Vista. My Chrome OS crashes here and there, but for a $250 computer using Linux, that’s not bad, it saves my pages anyway. But an iMac crashing twice a week is not a rare occurrence.
This is why until they reduce their prices to a propper level, I’m not getting a new Mac anytime soon.
They will not more likely. It’s just a marketing thing. There will always be a certain % of users thinking that they own something extraordinary (approximately about 3%).
Thank god you aren’t using an apple mouse for gaming
I have used Macs for over 20 years, but I’m NOT a fanboy!
1. Yes, a good quality, well-made PC will last as long as a Mac.
2. No. Any Mac user with the tiniest knowledge, knows that OS X is Unix-based, and that Android is Linux based.
3. Since Windows 7 came along, PCs have been easy to use. Before that, Mac won hands down. Now there’s probably nothing in it.
4. I’m not sure what you’re doing to make your Mac crash? I run a 2011 iMac (Mavericks) and it doesn’t. I only reboot every few weeks to clear out the system and speed things up a bit.
You make some fair points though I don’t agree with everything you said.
i 100% AGREE THAT MACS ARE A PIECE OF S**T. WHY DAFAQ IS THERE A CTRL BUTTON IF THERE IS A FUCKING COMMAND BUTTON. AND ALSO WHY THE F**K IS THE FN KEY IN THE CORNER. IM GETTING SO FUCKING TRIGGERED BY THIS PIECE OF S**T RN. PC MASTER RACE. BTW NICE GRAPHICS CARDS FAGGOTS FUCKING 3000 DOLLAR LAPTOP WITH A SHITITY AMD BULLSHIT FAG CUNTS CHEAP ASS HOES. FUCKING EVEN STEVE JOBS THINKS MACS ARE FUCING S**T. EVEN HE CONVERTED TO PC.
My mac works perfectly fine and none of the reasons you posted are true. That’s my honest opinion
Your Mac doesn’t even type properly from the first attempt.
I think u r using a china Mac and having no problems!!!
“my Mac works perfectly fine and none of the reasons are true” uhh HELLLOOO what about the right click huh? What about the viruses what about the overpriced trash? u stupid boi gtfo of here
My mac works perfectly fine and none of the reasons you posted are true
There are plenty of facts here, no blu ray, no hdmi, the fact that it stole linux.
It didn’t steal Linux. OS X was a variation of Unix that was BOUGHT (not stolen) from NeXt. Unix is older than you are.
I don’t own any Blu-Ray. How many people do? I don’t like the fact Apple decided optical drives were “not the future”, but the £20 USB DVD RW drive I got works well enough.
Most Macs have HDMI.
I’ll keep my Iphone 6 plus and even my original Ipad, but I will NEVER buy another Apple laptop or tabletop computer. Freezes, screen anomalies, and surging spam (including their own self-created virus, “MacHelper” or whatever it is) have sent me into the pc world, where performance is not only superior but without the vomit-worthy marketing.
Agree, +100500. I still use my iPod 6 and I even bought an iPhone SE. I’ll try to explain why – my BB Z30 was a little bit outdated (I’ve been using it for a 1,5 years) and every BB user knows what happened with BB10 OS (which I consider the best mobile OS ever created). Besides, the iMessage of course (let alone AirPlay, etc).
All in all I’m not going to change my Asus laptop to MacBook Pro. I’m absolutely satisfied with it (especially after OS upgrade; I like Ubuntu 16.04).
All you folks are right. No arguing there. I read them all and I have worked with them all and they all have pluses and minuses. Get a life and get on with it.
Dude I just bought my first mac 30 minutes ago and it’s a pre-owned (2000$ brand new in 2011) macbook pro 2011 model right?.Well I got it for 900$ preowned and the thing is so s**t i go straight to this site and start talking s**t about it that’s how fucking sad this shithole pos waste of fucking garbage is. i could make a better os than this s**t out of my dogs fecal if i had to. what a fucking joke my grandma could make a better computer than this pos on heroine. Seriously what a complete waste of 900$ and the paper for the receipt.
I’ve worked on computers since before the IBM PC was even invented. Software and hardware both.
For the average person, Apple computers are easier to use. Yes they are pricey, but as IBM just announced, Macs cost far less to own in the long run. They’re far more reliable and cause ⅓ less service calls. These are hard facts, not opinions.
I myself have worked on, repaired, and supported both for many years. Windows is more configurable, but with features comes complexity. It’s definitely a two edgeed sword.. Mac OS much simpler.
IMO, Apple fan boys are some of the most arrogant, annoying people on the planet. You won’t find me arguing about that. But for average people, I always recommend Apple products. This may now change however. Apple seems to no longer focus on customer experience. After founder Steve Jobs died, Apple seems to have lost focus. I guess I’m glad I’m no longer in the computer business.
I certainly would not recommend them. Build your own PC desktop and compare it with the most expensive Mac Desktop. See who wins.
I agree with your last point. I use a 2011 iMac running Mavericks and I dread the day I have to get a newer one. Lost focus? Yeah, that’s about right. But they will find it again. Soon, I hope.
Your all just mean and bullies if Apple user want to pay a lot for outdated products and be treated like crap who are you to judge you all talk about PC being better than Mac but your bulling is not very PC I would love to see a ubuntu phone then Linux would drop the Apple chain of products a Linux computer tablet router phone all working together better than Apple it would be awesome watching the Ubuntu phone but it’s only limited here hoping it spreads would love a galaxy s 7 with if
Ubuntu phones started coming out almost two years ago. Where have you been?
Ok, I gave up on Windows. Got 10 installed on my Asus and man it was a nightmar! Basically 10 is great OS, but the update process… My Asus is i5, 4 GB RAM and so on and I was spending 2-3 hours updating it. Finally I gave up. I changed 10 to Ubuntu 16.04 and now my updates installing in 5 minutes. Great OS, absolutely love it. I’m not a gamer (but I know there are games for Linux) and Ubuntu 16.04 is everything I need. Simple, reliable, etc. Most of all I like that sudo apt-get thing.
Looks like SOMEONE is a butthurt apple fanboy…
Wow, dude, have you heard about punctuation signs? Learn to use periods, commas and so on
Apple is the same linux/unix. Ask the arrogant Apple fun boys how they coded their “original OS”. But, the whole machine is a joke, a rocket engine which is not able to fly to the moon, because Apple managers/product owners think that its easier to get to the Moon through Mars. Yeah… you can have it to check your mails and to use Crappy Numbers which is not able to import simple CSV files, or to buy additional adapters, or
“adapters to adapters to adapters” to connect it to a simple projector in a conference or meeting, or to buy an additional CD-rom to read CD/DVD (ah sorry you would say that the era of CD is ended) or to use those 2 USB to connect 100 USB devices (really – nope). Really? $2500 and 2 usb ports and some additional ports that you’ll never use unless you buy Apple TV, Apple devices, Iphone, etc.
There are 4 categories of people who use Mac:
– Users that don’t do anything else on MAC than verifying their mails
– IOS developers (and many of them actually use linux/windows on day to day life)
– Customers that are used to Apple software
– Young people that use apple because its “cool”.
@Apple “lover”, you’re wrong about Mac use being limited to IOS developers. I do backend work that never touches a phone (and in production it runs on Linux), yet here I am, stuck in the CrApple Gulag. I’ve seen Macs in the building next door, too, so Mac shops must be pretty common.
well who the hell are you to talk dumbass, clearly you haven’t been out since 1987, ubuntu phones got released God knows how many years ago and guess what deal with it b***h its called opinions not bullying dumbass, jackass
I agree with your points but you have one misconception. OSX is not a linux distro and therefore should not have the things that all linux distros have. OSX is a unix fork.
BSD* UNIX>BSD>DARWIN Bam there have some fucking random and yeah. Really i cant stand apple cause they make their products so over priced
You know, just one of those reasons I’m *this* close to just straight up switching to Android.
it is so 90s when people still comparing interface. Timcock has changed everything in mac os, now mac is not the same as before, timcock killed all production program like aperture, iphoto, imovie, final cut pro, rosetta, now with a mac you are forced to only buy apps, gems based games in app store, buy songs movies in itune, all for entertainment purepose
You live in the loop, you keep installing all the feature hoarder update which make your mac slower and slower at a point you cant stand the slow speed and buy a new mac, after 10.6 there is no easy to reinstall the original mac os that come with your mac, you can only install the newest
You can install older OS! What I do is download each new one, but I don’t upgrade, just write the upgrade to an external HD. Even if I lose it it doesn’t matter – Apple know I have downloaded it before, so will let me download it again.
This guy is correct on 1 pt. High Price. The rest of his points attributed to resentment because he can’t afford one, and has no idea of how to use one.
Found the mac fanboy!!
LOL not able to afford one???? Did you just say that??? My 6950X and dual GTX 1080’s cost more than your best MAC, total cost on my PC would have you crying for weeks. Why buy junk like a MAC when you can own the latest and greatest hardware. MAC’s suck period…. there is no come back to that statement.
F**k of Frederick shithead honestly mac is just an overpriced garbage only dumpster divers buy s**t like this hell I bet even a dumpster diver would regret wasting his time on this fuckin trash
Lol, someone complaining about mac fanboys are just a but-hurt windows fan boy who was told he wasn’t allowed a mac for christmas. Most of your arguments are total s**t, and basically roll down to- you don’t know how to use a mac. You are used to windows and can’t be bothered to learn to use OSX Of course OSX is similar to linux, it is a UNIX system. And I’m not saying macs are power houses, or the perfect solution for everything, but for what I do, it is really useful. Oh and I’m not a mac fanboy, i use my mac for work and my Windows gaming PC for games
To bad Windows is and always will be more powerful
used mac, numerous linux distros, and windows for 20 years now. windows is for the most part, the most functional out of the box, has the better ui, linux, takes getting used to, but you can set it up any way you want and do absolutely anything you want, including high end gaming, and is rock solid stable, works on any hardware, including your pos apple hardware.
@A guy, you’ve got it backwards. A brand new CrapBook Pro was dropped in front of me and I was told “this is the computer you’ll be using for work.”
Macs are only like Linux to a certain extent. They have more in common with pre-Unix Macs. The UI is still inflexible and looks basically the same as it did in the 1990s, they still freeze a lot, their keyboards still have the same odd layout and still lack keys that PC users take for granted such as Home/End/PgUp/PgDn, you still can’t just plug PC hardware into a Mac, etc.
“i use my mac for work” that doesn’t sound very productive.
As a former accidental IT person for a non-profit, Mac’s were a godsend for a smaller nonprofit office with tech ignorant folks demanding their Pentium II magic boxes “work now!” PC’s and Windows were a nightmare.
OSX worked well and the interface was user friendly. But after Snow Leopard, OSX has descended into buggy bloatware — a mechanism for intentional obsolescence. When my Applecare expires in October I’ll be running Elementary OS or Ubuntu on my 2013 MacBook Pro.
I’m done with both of the major OS platforms at this point.
As a former accidental IT person for a non-profit, Mac’s were a godsend for a smaller nonprofit office with tech ignorant folks demanding their Pentium II magic boxes “work now!” PC’s and Windows were a nightmare.
OSX worked well and the interface was user friendly. But after Snow Leopard, OSX has descended into buggy bloatware — a mechanism for intentional obsolescence. When my Applecare expires in October I’ll be running Elementary OS or Ubuntu on my 2013 MacBook Pro.
I’m done with both of the major OS platforms at this point.
“Descended into buggy bloatware”, also known as “returning to their pre-OSX roots.”
I was an apple, worked on apple IIe and macintosh during the 80s and, about 20 years ago, on powermac 8100 and g3, they were not cheap at all, yet definitely more stable and fast than win95 on a pentium II :)
I still own both machines.
then intel hardware turned any mac in a slow-hard-to-expand-and-maintain-too-expensive pc
osx is even worst: clumsy, slow and generally obsolete.
I’m using a Toshiba Satellite L740, and it totally outperform my Macbook.
P.S.: WTF APPLE??? 1.1 GHZ FOR $1499???
U SUCK, STEVE!!!
I didn’t know Steve and even if I did I don’t know that I’d be so rude as to say that he “sucked”. However, OS X is, in my opinion, the beggar’s OS. I have many Apple devices in my house, including a 2009 27″ iMac on which I run Windows. Its great hardware (mostly) but Mac OS X is a bucket of sh1t. I am more fond of OS X.
yeah you know I agree mac sucks I have windows 10 on my 7 year old IBM thinkCentre and it will out perform any Mac even new up to date Mac I just spent an hour with one of my fathers friends trying to get pics from her phone on a Mac and her mac froze and I was left with nothing so Macs do suck and for you Apple lovers buy a PC next cause macs totally suck and are over Priced and their osx is s**t.
coding on mac/pc for many years, I like the clean interface and quick access of mac, and many coding frame work are clearly favor mac, fewer commds, easier to install etc. only if Mac hardware aren’t completely garbage.
The none stop freezing and crashing are seemly mac exclusive, even you don’t install any intense software on it. all my projects are within 1G and I never did any computing heavy task as I never expect my macbook to be a power house, but this overpriced garbage still freezing none stop when I do mysqul workbench. oh~ and the require, if my PC having trouble, I know how to replace parts or find a quick turn around, when your mac retarded up, good luck, apple store took a week to give you an appointment and even longer to get it repaired by charging you a premium, I’m done with mac
What clean interface? Emacs is about the same whether you’re on MacOS, Windows, or Linux. Except on a Mac you can experience the pleasure of accidentally hitting Cmd-w (which crashes Emacs) instead of M-w.
I am so sick of password for this and that and for this
and this cloud piece of [email protected]^ etc what a waste of over price trash……
Lol hilarious. 2009 article and as relevant as ever.
I used to be militantly anti-mac, but here’s the thing, I decided that getting so frustrated at people who are so ignorant as to not understand what they are saying is like picking a fight with a cripple. It’s not exactly what you’d call courageous but you’re guaranteed to win in every conceivable criteria.
I had to change my attitude, it was a difficult task but then I had this REVELATION..
APPLE IS NOT A TECH COMPANY
APPLE IS A JEWELRY COMPANY
Suddenly EVERYTHING they DO makes sense. Their drone supporters and their unlogical ramblings make sense. Apple’s bizarre and unethical actions make sense.
All the reasons why somebody might attempt to justify their overpriced versache bullshit are exatlty the same self-absorbed, piss poor arguments that mac drones lub to use.
Don’t hate on them because they’re stupid, its more that being intelligent has many many drawbacks, one being having to deal with the stupidity of people who are unaware of their own limitations.
Don’t get angry you’ll only be hurting yourself… just let them be, and ignore or walk away when they volunteer to demonstrate the depths of the own insanity.
both teams aren’t perfect. that is what i should say.
That’s not what you should say
The thing that drives me nuts is the awful keyboard. I’ve coded on Win and Linux for years. You barely ever use the super (Windows) key. In Mac the super (command key) is essential. One button shortcuts in Chrome (F12 for Dev mode) are now multi key (CMD + shift + i)
But the thing that really gets me on Win/Lin, ctrl + arrow skips to the next word. Making navigating and quick copy/pastes impossible on a Mac. You have to do alt + arrow and then switch to CMD+ x/c/v.
The only plus side I’ve noticed for developing on Mac are Transmit and Sequel Pro. And you can find open source (although not necessarily better) alternatives for those on Win/Lin.
I have to use a Mac at work and it’s slowly killing me.
Reading this on a macbook. these things are so fucking annoying, i love gaming but i can’t do s**t because I’ve got these edgy hipster piece of crap in my hands, it was born in starbucks, and now it dies in starbucks.
After buying my windows computer half a year ago, I was really pleased with what it could do. It was pretty expensive, but better than any Mac of the same price. Now, my school has Mac policy. It’s so depressing because I have to waste 800 dollars on a useless MacBook Air, when my Windows Computer could do everything Mac could do, but better.
a mac policy? thats the stupidest thing i’ve ever heard what school do you go to?
+fool-ha that’s funny, your name is fool and yet you talk to this kid like he is stupid, get a life dude seriously my old school had iPad policies, every school has their own policies so please stop embarrassing yourself
Our library is getting the front desk computers as Mac (El Capitan). To quote Zelda, “Joy!”
I use PC, and I know how to do some stuff with it, actually. Mac seems to designed for old people who need apps because their brains can’t wrap around the process of searching for a downloaded file, installing it, and possibly taking a risk that said file is virus-infected, but having the freedom to download this file without having to go to a “store” and buy it. An App is basically a shortcut to a program. Yea, ummm… I can make a shortcut to a program. And it won’t be required to be online to run (every smart device ever).
With a PC, I can run exe files, along with more common file extensions. Just recently with El Capitan, they FINALLY allowed doc and other mainstream files to open. Still totally hopeless for files like RPG Maker, which make new files, it tries to install instead of running, because every exe is an installer according to Mac/Linux systems. Now let’s talk about basic processes with Mac. Opening your Flash Drive. Nope, not easy. You have find it with viewfinder or whatever it’s called. Seems something handy like that would have a quick and easy shortcut right on the desktop, along with the MyComputer equivalent. Nope, both of them are well-hidden in a icon near the trashcan. Making shortcuts for stuff like drives (since everything is hidden)? Not easy either. First, you have to edit the mouse settings to have a right click, and then go to the dock (the MyComputer sorta thing), and kinda drag it over. When I tried this, it perma-moved this thing from the dock to the desktop. I wanted a copy not a move, thankyouverymuch. I try to move it back, and it doesn’t cooperate. I try to delete the shortcut, doesn’t take either (it is undeletable). I try everything from unpinning to moving to sending to. This is the routine for mac, obstructive programming, dumbing down the systems for people who don’t want or like flexible systems (and don’t understand how to use something that is non-App), and extreme user-unfriendliness. So I want to do… no you can’t.
Broke this up since one was too long. Let’s talk about why Apps are garbage. I have an android smartphone, oh I’m sorry, HAD. I tossed it out when non-closable programs began to drain the phone far more battery power No I don’t want to “sync” more apps. I want a phone that does calendar, calculator, and a few simple tools. Repeat, I said tools. Because that’s what they are, largely offline processes that do simple reminders or such. Not Apps. My dumbphone still has power 3 days later, and can set a calendar during an internet outage. My smartphone is draining itself dead within a day, and needs to be constantly tethered to a power cord. Programs in Windows 8 are size efficient. Apps in Windows 10 slow everything to a crawl, and Windows 10 frequently fails to load apps. They are glorified shortcuts for people who can’t make shortcuts, and think “wouldn’t it be better if we made all shortcuts interactive, updatable by internet, and more than half of them totally reliant on the internet.
Tell me again which of these is the smartphone? All of this stuff was offline before! Now it needs me to be on a 3G or 4G connection for the up-to-date exchange rate on my currency converter. Maybe I just need an estimate.
preach sister, I am a sister in software. I agree 1000 percent. I cannot believe people are willing to pay 1000+ for mediocre laptops that cannot run games. I have a Dell Alienware 13 and it cost 1200 USD and its MONSTER FAST and runs games. and thirty browser windows and ten applications at same time. I’m like you, too lazy to build my own machine, if you go to the alienware site and chat with the people you can usually get a discount– knock off a hundred off the price.
I use my Alienware for both games work and leisure and it is smoking fast. wouldve had to pay double for equivalent macpro
These are the cold facts about Mac and the only other reliable option Windows… Firstly when you buy a Mac your LITERALLY throwing your money in the trash and setting it on fire!The markup is blatant robbery and THEY try to convince you through clever marketing that someone how THEY ARE DOING YOU A FAVOR… it is actually infuriating that anyone buys apple products… next thing that is irritating about apple THEY HAVE LITERALLY NEVER INVENTED ANYTHING… they just borrow ideas and patents and software and hardware and literally everything except the plastic case and IMPOSSIBLE TO OPEN magnetic screws and their shitting grin of a logo… all of these marketing techniques are implemented to keep you ignorant and in the dark to what your actually buying. For example when you go buy a car do you only care about how it looks? NO that would be retarded you want to know if its safe and whats under the hood… and be able to ACTUALLY MAKE CHANGES TO THE PRODUCT WITHOUT HAVING TO COMPLETELY DISMANTLE IT TO ITS BARE BONES TO DO SO….AND THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THE MOST IMPORTANT… APPLE has convinced the public that a pc is ugly that you can’t have a pc that looks good that is complete horse s**t. if you spend 2 thousand dollars on a pc you get a better part in every category then you would when buying a mac… from the cooling to the processor the motherboard the GRAPHICS card literally every component in a Pc is competitively priced AND HERE IS THE KICKER… IF YOUR ONE OF THOSE FULL RETARD HACKS who is adamant about using Mac Os because and i quote ” i don’t want my computer to get viruses” firstly stop watching so much porn jared your embarrassing yourself and second pay the 40 dollars a year to get a good Antivirus and save 500 or more dollars when you actually buy your pc and still come out with a better overall piece of tech….What else…You cannot play triple A titles on a mac and a lot of titles dont even port to the OS and this reaaaaaally tickles my “PIST OFF BONE” if you buy a 1500 dollar macbook and literally only use it to check email and and send cat videos to your ignorant mac using friends THEN YOU SHOULD BE GUNNED DOWN IN THE STREET LIKE THE DEGENERATE YOU ARE because you have bought a 150 dollar Chrombook or literally anything under 300 dollars that would have done THE EXACT same things…………………………………………………….. SERIOUSLY HOW IS APPLE STILL RELEVANT…. if they brought a product of any kind to the table that was actually original or tried to be innovative in some other way I could forgive them… especially since the early ipods were actually pretty nifty……………….. I COULD GET PAST THAT IF THEY just stopped for 1 year at deceiving the public about what they are actually offering them….. #PC ELITIST FOR LIFE.
You don’t even need to pay anything for a decent antivirus program. I’ve been using the free version of Avast for the last few years and haven’t had a single virus
You dont even need an anti-virus at all, Mac computers are almost immune to viruses
i feel really bad because my parents are forcing me to buy A mac book pro when i really want to get a dino pc :(
Anton you should try super hard to convince them that 2 devices is the way to go get something ultra cheap for mobility like a chromebook or android tablet and save you money for a desktop computer if you talk to your parents rational and explain to them your intentions you might be able to convince them that firstly with the same amount of money i can get 2 systems that will cover all my needs that you can game on and use for other more demanding things like high resolution viewing or basic video editing. For example this producted would be perfect for school. Word document and web browsing:
And then build your own desktop – if a monitor and keyboard are hard to come by this might not be less expensive but you can easily build a very decent Pc for 800-1000 dollars try this site if you don’t know much about computer components:
If you have any questions at all that you can’t find a good video answer on youtube try checking tom’s hardware forums – I find their tips extremely helpful
Look my parents are from Asia so they are sort of wannabe techies but I was born in Asia but grre up in New York I can program in 22 languages I’m pretty much the only one who watches tech channels an YouTube and gets that small companies have the best potential like one plus but apple is s**t but my parents act like its the fucking president
For the same price as a Mac, you could get a PC running Window or Linux, that is fully customizable, and at least twice as powerful as the Mac.
At a computer store that sells stuff by its real value, I was able to get a decent computer for my dad for about $150. He upgraded it to Windows 10 and it works fairly well from what I see. Paying $2000 I could probably get a computer that would run games at full speed with pretty sweet graphics. If I knew what I was doing, shopping on NewEgg would basically get me an awesome gaming computer (I had some issues with assembling my own computer when it got to CPU and OS time, between glue melt and not having any OS). In comparison, I could shell out this same money to get something that had trouble opening most common files, wouldn’t rightclick, and did several really dumb things. And throw it out the window.
I have a mac and I con totally relate to this.
That typo must’ve been an error with your Mac keyobard
So what are you typing on Mr loling? “keyobard”
I like how this was posted in 2009, and since then most, if not all of the points stated are now irrelevant. Yet, people still agree and say it is accurate being Apple haters. I’ll tell you what, it’s been 7 years since this article was published and those that still think it’s accurate (most of you) obviously haven’t even used a Mac since then, otherwise you would understand how outdated and completely false this whole article is. I can disprove all points made here easily.
Actually I have the new 2000 dollar 2015 MacBook Pro. All of these are 100% still true and it took me three days just to get apple’s very own bootcamp to work. I had to go into administrator settings just to see my own user directory.
Get a Mac L’nzo!!!!!
It’s you who has yet use the new mac.
Mac sucks alot and if you still do not realize it, it’s either you sucks at using computer or u sucks alot
We are mac haters? Maybe there is a reason why they hate macs. All above points are correct. I go to the University School of Nashville, and here the administration supplies us with Macbook Pros 17″, if you choose not to buy a computer yourself. I am currently using one, (because why not get a free laptop) to write this Reply. I do agree that the alternative Windows 10 has a lot of bugs too, but it is easier to control. I personally don’t have “that big of a problem” for mac as I got this laptop for free, however I do agree that the problems stated in the original forum does bother me sometimes. Also, i’m sure that they are happy to call you an Apple Slave.
HAHAHA. Sorry though you said MAC was better.
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We have a new El Capitan Mac. It still has many of these problems. It is tolerable, but very much garbage when looking side by side against even a Windows XP. In fact, Windows copied the design of Mac for Windows 8 making it more like one of the iPhones. It sucked. Desktop works, stick with it.
God, why are you idiots still debating over this? People have something called “opinions” which allow one human being to be different from another, some people prefer Mac, and some prefer Windows, or Linux. It is simple, it is “Opinions”
I have a ipad air 2, I won from work. I have been using android since the dawn of the dinosaurs. I find it difficult to use, although people with iphones say it’s easy to use. I agree about the right click, but I can’t do even the simplest of things.
I wanted to delete the search history off this thing and couldn’t do that when I pulled up history. There was a book icon ti pull up ipad’s user guide, which subsequenty was no help after I typed in delete internet history, a pair of glasses and a @ symbol. Where do you go to delete the history?
Unlike android where you go to the play store and download apps. Apple wants your credit card information, PHI(protected health information), a blood sample and your first born child. All I wanted to do was download a free app for netflix and I had to go through this rigamarole. I don’t want to have my credit card in the cloud stratosphere and why should I have to give it to get a free app.
Signing up the ipad was a chore. It was so lengthy.
As a girl, I think I’m pretty savvy. I can figure out a great many things but apple products are not my forte. With apple there is really only one way to do things, where as my android has multiple dimensions. Maybe it will take me some time to get used to it but for now it seems like a one track pony.
Apple maps sucks. With all that money, they can’t do what Google has done to map the world using satellite technology?
I just don’t get its popularity. I mean it’s pretty……..(o )(o ) but that’s all I can really say about it.
Youre pretty fucking stupid if you cant figure out that you can control click to right click. But Macs do suck
control click requires the use of the other hand and as such an inconvenience,
some people right-click on one hand while the other hand is holding a cup of coffee.
There is right click… what are you talking about?
dude shut the f**k up seriously, my mac mouse can’t click right click when I click it, it sometimes works but it doesn’t work 87% of the time unless u have a trackpad
Although I was a PC user for whole life and developing in .NET and PHP using them and also playing games, I started development for iOS and bought a macbook pro because of this. From my personal experience I can say that both have pros and cons. So I will put my opinion here based on my experience:
-When working in Windows after 2 months, maybe less, of usage the machine is not same as before even if you clean your registry, garbage files and in general take care of your machine and look if “things” are running without knowing what they are.
-For PC laptop to play games decently you have to pay a lot of money also.
-Windows is more targeted to viruses through web and easier for someone to install something in your machine than mac and Unix based systems.
-Clean install of Windows means losing all your software installed and the process is not as easy as Mac, although not difficult.
-PC and laptops lose their price faster over time.
-Can’t install OSX on windows machine and run smoothly. To do so you have to know what to buy and still pay much money.
-Trying high end laptop was great experience with Visual Studio and nice to work on it.
-Installing almost all kind of software.
-Visual Studio is an advantage by its own.
-The good thing for PCs is same like cooking. You know the ingredients you use. You can make an amazing machine that fits your needs and budget and sometime have many years of warranty for every part and can perform very highly.
-Upgrading is easy and costs less money.
-Price too high and you don’t know what is inside. I bought mine from eBay for 1000$ (2015 13.3″ 256GB SSD)
-Never tried to play games on Macbook Pro so far.
-In the model I bought you can’t upgrade memory after. You buy it you are stuck with it.
-Xcode (IDE used for developing iOS and OSX apps) is nothing compared to Visual Studio and calculating the money this company made so far is s**t, although improving now.
-Low hard drive capacity. If you need it for photos movies and stuff external drive is necessary.
-I used a iMac 2011 and it was slow as hell.
-It is pleasant experience to use a macbook. Keyboard, Force Touch trackpad and screen are high quality. It is light and case also seems good quality.
-Retina display is amazing and to support it with so huge battery life means the hardware is not so shitty.
-Battery life is amazing.
-Very fast SDD. Everything starts and runs very fast and smoothly. Even Xcode, Photoshop and demanding software.
-Benchmarks and performance are very good for laptop.
-Although expensive they keep their value. After 2 years for example you can sell it back losing only 20-40% of initial price. Is not the same for most PC laptops.
-You can install Windows also and have great performance on them too.
If someone use his laptop for professional reasons macbook pro is a good option in my opinion. You can use it anywhere, is light and the battery will last enough.
If someone is normal user or gamer doesn’t make sense to pay so much money for a macbook instead of showing off.
This is all prety much true I asked some Mac fan boys about the firewire and they just changed the topic and babbled on about something else.
Yes I was told it is thaw most user friendly. Not even close.
Granted Im not all that good it things like this but I did not run into problems that should not even happen. I am having a problem with my iPhoto,The iPhoto Library is locked, on a locked disk, or you do not have permission to make changes to it. iPhoto can try to repair the permissions. Now this is the second time this happened and I am looking on line for the fix. I did take it to the apple store and the gent fixed in about two minutes. I see this happens a lot with others. How is it so hard to put the two min fix out here so we can get on with life. Reall is a piece.
Also I picked up a mac passport to back up everything. I was told to plug it in and it will lack up everything just that easy i said they said yes. BULL S**T I deleted 1700 pictures to free up some space after backing up by just plugging in. Well there not there lost them all.!!! thanks Apple for this wonderful piece of s**t that cost $2200.00 junk I cannot change again I cannot afford it.
Yeah, it sucks. Especially using Photoshop is sucking my balls.
i have had no troubles with my mac, it loads fast, and the Pages app is really good! And I know this isn’t the point but they’re beautiful compared to those small black rectangles others buy. The interior ans screen are smashed soon enough. First apple product to call my own and works like a charm!
Omg you are literally retarted. Windows and Linux pc’s can literally look however you want them to, by buying one that looks the way you freaking want it. You could even get a windows pc that looks exactly like a freaking mac.
I was a PC person for over 6 years and when I switched to Macs for a few months, I will never switch back to PC’s shitty =user interface, it maybe more functional and better features, but using a mac is overall better experience.
Hahaha, just wait for a year ot two. Your favorite piece of aluminum is going to fall apart. First OS, second hardware. Then you will return to PC. Mac is Mac and always will be. Expensive overrated and overpriced toy.
I’ve had my 13″ MacBook Pro for 4 years now and it hasn’t degraded in performance, and I run heavy use music production software on it daily, sooooo…..
You guys with failing Macs are doing something wrong.
No, my friend. I owned that white plastic laptop and it started to fall apart weeks after I got it. Almost every time when I listened to music, opened PDF files, etc. Finally, I returned this chef d’oeuvre and bought a PC. Never again. But if you love it, please go on.
You know that PC doesn’t have an interface right? Windows does, OSX does, Linux does. But not a PC because it is just hardware.
I can use tons of different desktop environments and spiffy fast with no viruses running Arch Linux *shrug*
better experience? Boy are u stupid? Cuz u clearly are mac is an overpriced garbage that can’t even run on a potato even my cheap camera runs better than this macshit that came from a bunny’s ass
I work in software. I will tell you why I will never pay for an apple computer.
1) Macbooks start at 1000. None of them, at any price, can run hard core video games! (because, crappy video cards) If I’m paying $$$$, I expect my computer rig to do it ALL
2) Hard to customize. Lets’ say I want to swap out parts. PCs, just watch a youtube video, order a twenty dollar part from amazon, done. Apple computer upgrades/repair= expensive/faraway trip to apple store.
3) 1000 dollar computer, only 128 gb hard drive?! I DON’T THINK SO. you need half of that just for your apps. one year of family photos, then you’re out of space. puh-leaze.
4) I actually have a friend who says “I want a mac because, they look stylish.” Cuz we should all buy computers because they’re shiny and cute. all show and no go. just sayin
I got this laptop for free minus hard drive and it has a 232GB hard drive and 8GB ram
TL DR! Macs are better than PCs!
Shut yo trap b***h
How to express my thoughts on my macbook pro. Utter total s**t. By the 2nd year it began to fail on me, by the 3rd year its a slow ass mess that cant open s**t. I’ve had to erase and reboot the hardrive like 10 ten times, and the thing is as slow as a fucking snail. Did I mention it made me lose many of important files I needed for a project I’ve been working for 2 years. So done with Macs for good.
I now have a Macbook Pro. It cost about the same as a high end Del. I used to own Dell precisions.. had 3 of them. The Macbook Pro hangs about the same amount of time as the Dell’s, it does the same thing as the Dells, and honestly, I cannot find any real difference in using it to the Dell. It does feel nice to touch, and feel solid. It is no better than the dell Precision for the same price, not is it worse.
That’s totally untrue , please , any PC laptop that costs as much as a MacBook Pro has a hard core memory , an i7 chip , dedicated memory card and touchscreen. PLEASE . Who you kidding
The big reason to hate apple is because they exploit labour in 3rd World countries, and they don’t pay any taxes in any country essentially they exploit the world and its people and all they care about is making more and more money at the expense of everyone
I’m getting sick with this mac f***… I think everybody can use a OS he like, but in my company they brabbeling how nice mac is etc and if they don’t know how to do something they ask me (and I’m not use this s*it).. Can’t rightclick first I tought that they making fun…
Yeah but bralleling how cool this OS is and so on… I hate it. I don’t tell them everytime how bad and expensive it is – so they can leave me alone. I’m using Linux-Mint I’m happy with it – its not that restricted like mac os – its perfect for programming, why they try to change me on MAC? (Most annoying is no right-click AND OTHER Keyboard-shortcuts (CTRL & C) no way! you have to use (“APPLE” & C) annoying.
But they tell me, that windows and linux are bad, why they use this special shortcut? *it make me sick*
Man, i really want to dump my apple mac.
But ive been caught in the trap. One recall (they didnt tell me up front) then the HD packed up. (Small Ive now found out)
Ive now an apple with as Samsung HD!!! (works better!!) i am so bambuzzled by the filing system, seriously, whats great with apple mac? Apple mac is an expensive toy for the “wannabes” in the airport!!
somebody has to give me a good reason to to buy apple…. please come forth…ill listen, I promise. But make it good, cos my samsung may get upset!!!!
Man, just looking at the wannabees with Apple mac in the airport is my holy grail of anger, ive had nothing but problems with my “MAC”, and if an apple can get serious it would not be called “Mac” (Scottish serious, we fight for less!!) It would be called “loser with to much money” (LOTMs)
We Scots went to war for less against the English!!
Mr Jobs, im on your case!!! (In scotland we call “jobbies” s**t)
In ten years I have never gotten one virus on a mac…just saying. Also if you click anything with two fingers on the touchpad it works just like right click,…idk why people keep saying there is no way to right click
You may not get viruses but that’s because they don’t make as many for Mac. But the viruses they do are significantly nastier than other normal ones.
11. You need to download 5 GB (GIGABYTES, no physical media copy available) to be able to develop software for OS X or iOS.
I loaned my friend some money to buy a macbook pro because his got stolen some time ago, and quite honestly the only reason he is getting it is because he wants to seem more trendy and cool, and yeah he is under the idea that macs get less viruses…
The fact is MAC exploited the market. They convinced hoopleheads that the MAC was a better system by putting money into advertising. Now I have a boss with no understanding of managing IT infrastructure, but wants the easy votes by buying supposedly flash hardware for our users.
Guess who gets stuck with managing these shitbag laptops that dont integrate properly with windows?
Guess who gets stuck with the bill for parrallels software to run the goddam windows systems we need?
I’m constantly hear the same nonsense about the superior performance of MAC laptops too. What a joke.
F**k Apple. F**k John Lennon for coming up with the name. F**k Steve Jobs for his carpet-bagging. Oh, and f**k the Taliban.
“I have a boss with no understanding of managing IT infrastructure”
That is why you have a job, stop crying.
I have an apple mac pro here for repair. It has a flashing folder on a white screen. Took the hard disk out of this very expensive machine and find its the cheapest Seagate drive available, seen this in a few apple computers. Took a look at the ram and thats from a cheap manufacturer also. Any how, the drive is goosed but worse than that the sata cable connecting hte drive is also goosed. Been repairing and building PC’s for 20 years and never seen a cable just break without first being abused by an incompetent, but this cable by by its own accord has broken. The case is a fine piece of work and has to be the most expensive part of the machine.
I looked this up when I googleyed “mac just sucks for the rest of the world” after hackintoshing thru several OS X versions, and not really knowing why, I concluded, what a big marketing POS. Truely, and not to offend, The people I know that did shell out for the prime Mac Pro 10 years ago, Live in denial. In the same time span, you could have replaced your PC at least every 2 years. IF you were stuck on SL, you were also stuck with that era’s graphics card choices. If you could upgrade OS-X, then your old Graphics choice was probably now unsupported. Ridiculous. AND honest to god, this guy is still right. Mention OS-X is just Linux and they will start talking about who knows what. And a broken XNU linux too, :p . I guess I do what I do with OS X because they say I cant. And its some small bit of pride running OS X el capitan on an amd 64 x2 from 2008 when the real mac pro can’t. bwahaha
The reason Mac sells so well is because the average office user is a dumbass. They goof off watching funny videos (and porn) from sketchy sites, don’t bother with even the most basic security measures, and then break the computer and wonder why. “Mac doesn’t have any viruses.” Yeah, duh. Because it runs on alien file extensions. Not because it is more secure. IE gets more viruses than Firefox, because everyone knows how to use (and exploit, in hacker’s case) the thing.
shut the f**k up samantha you sexist dumbass, it’s not just guys that watch porn u idiot, it’s girls as well, look up novapatra and you will feel stupid for saying it’s just guys, and it’s not the reason why mac sells so well, people also buy it for gaming, and other s**t, so please keep your sexist opinions to yourself thank you very much
Great article, majority of the points if not all points use facts to support the content.
The number one thing about apple products I dont understand is the price, the pricing is just ridiculous and for something that has no compatibility.
I dont see how the company is doing so well, would figure people would avoid them like the plague due to cost alone.
THE ARTICLE IS TRU THO
IT’S TOTALLY ON POINTE
Don’t forget, if you’re in IT and have to deal with ANY issues with these overpriced, under-powered, POS’s, you’re up a creek. Been battling this junk hardware and even worse software…F*ckin’ things don’t even want to talk to each other in an office network environment. Open Directory is a complete joke, file structure is the most convoluted, ridiculous system I’ve ever seen. Oh, and if you try to “Google” a topic for help on your issues…good luck. Everyone has about 4 different ways to “fix” (always just a workaround with OS X) it…and it can ONLY be done via “Terminal” because hey, why would you want to just click, or right click on something to get what you want. Much easier to have to learn an entire vocabulary of commands. Screw Apple and screw OS X.
I agree the other problem with mac a new program comes out sorry it only works on 10.10 and later wtf I got a mac book and apple says it cant take windows 10 they were wrong it was perfect and fast but it can’t take a newer mac os because it’s 32 bit and cant play brilliant blueray dts like windows windows is much better you can run anything of it longs you don’t install crapy tool bars they hide in terms and conditions and regular cleanups windows is fine you can even load windows 10 on a cheap core2 duo like I did with hackingtosh and windows I fixed a few macs they can get viruses I did this deliberate to see how robust it was but wasn’t it corrupted
Macs are way overpriced and just boring to use
Macs are stupid. They ardley print
I forgot my PC and borrowed my son’s MAC. Everything Jerry describes in the article I experienced. I was astonished at how complicated the MAC was and what a relief it was to get back to Windows. Honestly, I was shocked. I used to use a MAC back in the early 90s (remember the SE?) and was kind of excited about trying it again. I don’t know what else to say.
when they try to sell you one of these over priced machines, they say their software is simple… and for the price of the computer I could buy a great windows laptop, or even a spec monster of a cabinet with all of the best additions. This is how apple makes money over price their hardware, it is absolute garbage, Sadly I am forced to have one of these “great Machines” Id much rather get one of the new razors, or just a good PC laptop in general.
I agree Mac has many problems but Windows is a fading technology and apple a premium one. I wish windows were half as good but unfortunately there is no comparison. Apple suck, but The PC alternative is ridiculously shittier
Macs are sold just like if they were art pieces. I always thought they are only empty, useless and well-cut (so expensive) flat alluminium boxes.
Apple wants to be the Mercedes of computers. If you want one you need to spend 3 times to buy one. Unfortunately windows is the fading technology And apple has become the premium brand for everyone. I agree that Apple suck a hundred times over, it’s just unfortunate the window suck 1000 times more
Windows is the fading technology? Open your eyes, dude! Just look at the OS market share. Do you have any questions? Sure you don’t. OS X – 9,03% (2016). The rest is (with little exceptions) Windows.
hahaha u people hate macs because they are expensive??? its like hating Ferrari for being expensive. Sure u can make a GTR much faster on a track than a Ferrari with a fraction of money!!!
morons… idiots will be idiots :p
Mmmmmm… Ferrari=Apple? Please, don’t compare them. I do know what Ferrari is all about (drove them). First class engine, first class electronics, first class leather, Formula 1 technology, etc. But that was about Ferrari only (let alone Bugatti cars). Not about Apple products.
I hate Mac for being so cheap. I wanted to build this $50 000 computer pcpartpicker.com/p/gyC3vK but Mac only peaked at $21 000. Too cheap for me. I want to waste more money.
One major selling point of windows is the versatility. You can dedicate as much as you want to it to fit your budget. Not only that, it’s been proven you can save hundreds building your own computer while also outperforming the Mac. Rich or poor the PC caters for all.
macs are not ferrari,
take ultrabooks – macbook air and dell xps 13.
both similar priced, computational specs.
dell xps 13 slightly cheaper and lighter.
both metal chasis exterior.
dell gives you 1920 x 1080p matted IPS panel
whereas your so-called premium ultrabook mini
gives your ??? x 900p cheap-ASS TN panel.
cheap panels does not equal FERRARI.
get your facts right.
true idiots will be idiots
and isheeps will be isheeps
and we know who the real idiots are… baaa…baaa,,. baaa… (sheep calls)
without a master-herder like jobs, all isheeps wanders aimelessly.
Haha self entitled Mac-douche. For far less than the price of your crappy underpowered Mac, I can get a way better desktop, and a way superior laptop.
macs are OVERPRICED. Yes, if it’s a good product, the expensiveness will be worth it…but for a Mac…it’s wayyyyy too overpriced for such a crappy product. Ferrari, on the other hand, is expensive but the product is actually GOOD.
…macs are crappy and overpriced/expensive…Ferraris are good and expensive, not overpriced. And we don’t JUST hate Macs because they’re overpriced.
That’s the thing. Mac isn’t a Ferrari. It’s a Honda civic painted with a thing layer of gold. It’s looks great, they advertise it to the fullest, but when you look at the hardware specs you realize how crap it is. $1,000 gets you a Dual core 1.5 ghz cpu. With $1000 I could get you an UNLOCKED 3.5 ghz cpu. Not to mention their graphics card is total garbage, 8gb of RAM.. With $1000 you can get 16gb of RAM and a GTX 960. Totally ridiculous. Normal computer companies scam it’s people for the most part, by selling a pc for $1000 with $450-$550 material inside but Apple sells their stuff for $1000 with $250-$350 material. Disgusting. And that’s just their cheapest Mac! Being an enthusiast pc builder, I can tell you that Mac is just a huge scam.
Expensive would not be a problem if they worked my old pc did much more than i can do on this expensive piece of s**t
Apple sucks they sucks i buy and iphone 6s and they send me and iphone 4
Well, I just bought an Alienware 13 today, which is probably overpriced compared to other gaming PCs, but I like Dell so why not. I got the following: core i7 6500U 2.5 gh/nvidia GTX 960M with 4 gb graphics card/16 gb RAM/ 500 GB hybrid hard drive. This all cost $1200. (Prob would’ve been less if i built it myself, but well I was lazy) I then went to the Apple website, the equivalent Macbook Pro was $2200, that’s Without the graphics card. I started snickering. Keep drinking da cool aid Apple Fanboys
where did you buy the alienware?
I’ve always built my own PC’s and they will blow the doors off of any Mac I’ve ever seen. I have a youtube video of a laptop I built that boots from dead off to a Windows desktop in 3 seconds. A Mac will never touch that. I do own a Macbook Pro. I had to buy it because even though you can develop iOS apps on a PC, you HAVE to use a Mac to upload them to the Apple store. The is the only reason I have a Mac, and the primary reason why I hate Apple. Other than that, you can’t do a damn useful thing on a Mac.
I totally agree with everything that this article points out wrong about macs.I currently am stuck with this piece of Sh*t because my school said “oh look we can get these 11′ laptops for 900 dollars instead of these ridiculously over priced 500 dollar 17′ computers!”.And i dont have anotehr computer to use.THANKS SCHOOLS!!
Ok, it’s my turn to say a word. Got 2 PCs – Dell desktop with Ubuntu and Asus laptop with Windows 8.1 (waiting for 10 now). I’ve got Apple TV3 and iPod Touch 6. So to speak, I’ve only bought reasonably priced Apple products. I will never buy an iPhone or MacBook (I owned corporate iPhone and MacBook once upon a time). I know that abovementioned gadgets are ABSOLUTELY overhyped and overpriced and once again – I will never spend a penny to buy them. I’m not an Apple hater I just know that if you spend your money you should spend them understanding what you’re going to buy.
apple fanboys do not understand. I asked a few apple fanboy people, what components does your macbook have, they couldn’t answer, yet kept insisting how great their Crapple was. ANY PERSON who has the SLIGHTEST clue about computer parts, would never pay for a Crapple.
Oh, I feel sorry for them. They’re nothing more than victims of aggressive marketing. Hope they will switch on their brains one of these days.
The SSD drive macs have are not all that good, they are like experimental hard-drive and are not good for storing data.They act like “batteries” and loose data over time, new and crappy stuff.Macs are for brainless idiots, it hurts my brain, and not only do I loose all ration when I hear about “APPLE BEING THE BEST COMPUTERS IN THE WORLD” AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA.Yeah..for like the 80″s.I bought a laptop almost 2 yers ago and it cost about 550 @, the specs are 8 gb Ram i5 3,2 Gh ,1 GB Nvidia card(I wanted a low video card to “get” through college without playing games al lthe game).And at least I have a freaking video card and a 500 gb memory(also cuz I don”t want to play games all day long).While at about 1000 dollars a apple doesn”t have any dedicated video card, and a I5 with “barely” a 2,4 ghz processor.At a minimum of 1000 DOLLARS !!! With those money I would buy i7 with 3,2 ghz(and better if there is), 1 TB, 16 gb Ram, and a 2gb video card, and DEDICATED!!!!, if you want something strong for gaming, programming,digital art, you buy Lenovo, Asus, even Dell or whatever..but not Apple.It would be a sin for gaming
Like you, i wanna puke when people brag about apple products. apple computers are just overpriced and ridiculous. 2000 dollars, can’t run a game properly?! wtf. iphones cost 500 have only 16 gb of memory?! I have had both macbooks and iphones, and never again I will use either. BS products for idiots.
Why I like PCs:
There is a workstation I want. It is made by HP. In short, it has:
* 2 Xeon E5-2699 (that’s 36 compute cores)
* 4 NVIDIA GTX Titan X Graphics Cards (that’s 48 GB dedicated to graphics processing)
* 256GB DDR4 2133 ECC RAM
* 1TB Samsung 850 Pro SSD (Primary)
* 2.0TB Intel P3700 PCIe SSD (Secondary)
It costs $32,000.
This is not a Mac. A Mac can’t be this.
This is a PC. This represents what a PC is to me. It represents what is possible.
This hardware represents a fraction of what Windows can handle.
It will crash. it will hang. Updating drivers may be challenging. But when it’s running?
P.S. Linux works, too.
I’m a mac.
And I’m a pc.
and im steeeeeeeeeeeve
[mac and steeve start making out]
PC: Woah, you two sure know how t-[CRASH]
Well it crashes that easily just because you mac fanboys are too stupid to use a REAL computer…. BY THE WAY, mac and steeve make out?… I KNEW IT mac is for homosexuals ROFL… AND OH YEAH, at least the pc crashes when it’s talking, your futuristic disposable garbage freezes WHEN USING SOFTWARE AS YOU WOULD USUALLY DO!!! AREN’T MACS SO STABLE AND GREAT!!? And yes, i’ve used fagpple’s pseudo-computers before.
PS No offense to normal people who own macs, this was only aimed at ignorant, retarded, elitist, brainwashed ISHEEP pseudo-hipster zombies.
Agree 99999999999999999% with you folks
Mac is SUPER DUPER SUCKS. Exactly, their osx
If i where you, if i won a macbook, I’ll burn away like “macbook destruction video” on YouTube and enjoy the show, i want to do that coz i never experience it in real life.
And, one more fact
“Macbook” in Indonesian language means “drunk”
first of all, study english. WERE*. Next, mabuk is drunk. not macbook. I really don’t know what language you are using in your life. And finally, if I got macbook as a present and don’t like it, i’ll sell them away and get money. Only stupid people like you will do destruction and causes fucking haze which then affects other countries. Selfish prick
I’m not particularly an Apple fan, however, I use Apple/Android and MS products due to the fact that one of my MLS vendors only support windows while electronic keys is provided by some idiots who only supports windows and android phones!! Apple does suck, nevertheless: Apple sucks less, Linux sucks the least while MS still sucks, even with windows 10 which I use extensively throughout my work day. We need a unified standard to protect consumers from big corporate BS of blocking one another for the sake of profitability and killing the competition. Call me crazy but they all suck.
I don’t understand why people are always foolish enough to update their Apple device’s firmware,
Because new firmware by Apple always sucked ,
It only shows an worsen the performance as well as taking more space due to worthless built in softwares such as airdrop,( could have just download a third party software with similar capabilities ) ( stupid Apple developers ruined ifunbox via iOS 8.3) that’s when I started hating Apple.
I usually dont pitch in for these debates, but I guess being a macbook air user, I would toss in my two cents. I code a lot, for a 16:10 ratio, I like this screen better than any other 13 inch. Macs are durable, I have dropped mine so many times and it goes on like I didnt drop it at all. Have I used windows ? Sure, the clickiness of it all makes me nauseous. Did I use Linux? of course, I have arch and ubuntu it installed on a partition on this very machine. Apple has got its engineering right folks – it has a rugged laptop standing 12 hours of charge. Windows machines do not have the same level of engineering. Apple may be overpriced in iPhones, or macbook pros, but macbook air, I can assure you for any serious programmer it is a great laptop.
PS – I know the missing control key on keyboard can be a pain if you are emacs user, but I use vim so thats a non issue.
just create your own laptop with the firmware you want (yes i know hackintosh is not compatible with everything) just look up any tutorial online and well more for your money and well battery wise just get one hella large battery and it will run fine and will probs be cheaper i never did anything with creating laptops but u know its better to create your own than buy somethin overpriced (pls dont judge my grammar if ur a grammar nazi hav mercy)
Well my PC does Mac OSX as well as Windows and Linux. It cost me a LOT less than an equivalent MAC and guess what ? It runs OSX better than an equivalent Mac. You do realise that Macs are just PC’s using basically the same parts that you can buy off of a shelf at a computer store with the difference being Apple charges you more because they put it in a shiny case with an Apple logo ?. Windows is a better all round OS that OSX has quite a way to catch up. The finder is possibly the worst file manager I have EVER used (and I’ve used a few on various computers/OSes).
As my school district is run by hateful b******s, they spent probably a million-ish buying MacBook Airs. For five large high schools. Because they hate people. They even made the system worse than I thought possible, because school restrictions are SO MUCH FUN. I can’t even do the /Users/[USER]/Library/Application manual entry, so my efforts to download a Minecraft challenge map were a dismal failure. Even worse, and this is just highway robbery, they don’t make replacement parts. No surplus, no anything. I accidentally broke a milligram of plastic off of one of the arrow keycaps, and thus rendering it unable to stay on. It cost $400 to replace the keyboard. Instead of having, oh, EXTRAS OF A KEY THAT APPEARS TWICE ON THE KEYBOARD, I had to pay the worst price-to-manufacturing-cost EVER.
Ever notice how MacBook sheeps have absolutely no idea what specs their wonderful MacBooks have yet carp on and on about great they are ? If you think it’s acceptable to pay 1000 bucks for a laptop with only an i5 chip and 128 gb hard drive then you are a moron. At 1500 dollars which is the average price for a MacBook I would expect touchscreen, at least 500 gb hard drive , and a graphics card with dedicated memory. Admit it MacBook users , you like them because they’re shiny and pretty and fun to show off at Starbucks .
A SSD is different from a hard drive.. just admit you’re too poor to afford one so you’re butthurt
you’re a moron. I would never buy a Crapple. No matter how much money I had. If i wanted to spend 10K on a computer I would get a PC that would eat every Mac for breakfast.
OS X IS A VIRUS ITSELF AND THE WORST PART IS THAT THE ONLY WAY TO GET RID OF IT IS TO GET A NON-APPLE COMPUTER!
THANK YOU! This article is spot on! Macs are over priced trash. People always complain about their computers being rife with viruses on pc. If you don’t understand how to maintain a computer and not download everything you stumble across on the internet, then yes, there will be viruses. Otherwise, you get a pc and they last and work fine. Macs are dumbing down the computer market and keeping people away from their responsibility to actually understand how computers work.
my first GUI computer was a mac back some 30 years ago,and it was amazing,well anything was better that DOS. but I havent touch a mac for 30 years until a few weeks ago when I got 4 G4s and one G5 for free(which is all they are worth to me).Once you get over the build quality you realize they are just expensive eye candy.Keyboard cable too short, no right click, I had to go on the internet like a retard and ask how do you open the cd tray.
only 2 usb and one of them is used by the keyboard/mouse. and two of the g4 didnt even have a mic input, I have never in my life seen a computer without a mic input,and all the g4 have the usb and headphone jacks in the back-very inconvienent.But the biggest problem is the freeware, I only found blender, wavepad and audacity for mac and only audacity works on a few of the macs, on the others i had to install a basic mini version, also when you launch audacity, and quit it you have to reboot the computer to launch it again!! So i said screwit Ill install linux , no good, macs dont allow that!
so what possible purpose do these computers serve?? I can go to any garage sale resale shop and for $20 buy a junk dell or hp and fill it up wit all the freeware i can download with no problem.I think these macs are like expensive sports cars, yes,they look cool but after a while you realize, they gave poor gas mileage, no trunk space they ride bad, your insurance is throw the roof, and every cop with a radar gun and car thief is following you.Ill just scrap these macs for the aluminum, at least Ill get some good out of them!!!
bought a macbook for school. it’s light and has long battery life. i’m not going to pretend i know a lot about computers, but i also have an acer laptop which was just as expensive but is heavy and only lasts a few hours. as a student, macbooks are actually a good choice if you don’t do anything too complex.
If you’re not doing anything complex…you realize you could’ve just gotten a $350 Acer/Asus that would’ve done everything you needed, instead of a $1000 Macbook Air. just saying
why i hate sheepboys, they called windows bloated, yada, yada, etc.
Yet, when they recommend someone a mac, they’ll always say – make sure you get 8gb ram or more, because yosemite sucks memory.
meanwhile all windows pc were running fine with 4gb ram, everybody knows that. lean and mean.
Lol, I’m not even a big fan of macs, but you are lying to yourself if you think windows has better memory management.
Apple has taken advantage of the fact that processing is far less time consuming than reading from a hard drive or even ssd. As such apple compress their memory. I’ve had 16 gigabytes of data stored in memory, with only 8gb of ram.
Windows doesn’t have a feature like this. It just creates a paging file once you hits it limits.
There are a lot of things to hate about macs, but they are leading ram management by far.
just gonna reply to james since theres no option to reply to him so “windows has no option like this……” have you ever heard of the “internet” m8? no you live in the umm…. ,medieval or somethin no have you ever used windows? probably not enough to undertstand the 3rd party programs please learn something before isheeping you ass off
I get so annoyed when people tell me ‘Macs are better’.
it’s okay, next time ask them what components their macs have, and enjoy the engulfing silence.
Right click works in minecraft at least (the default mouse has some shitty ball and just left click and some strange side buttons which seem useless)
Nothing against your comment except one thing, Minecraft.
This is funny. I just bought a Mac 2 months ago, and i love it. My windows that i bought in 09 fucking sucked. It has so many viruses and i was tired of getting it fixed every year. My husband also has a Macbook from 09 and it still works like the first day he got it! Sorry, but this article sucks. You are worse than a child trying to prove why xb1 is better than ps4. Its all in what you want. Macbook also has a right click on the touchpad its called two fingers..hmm thats not so hard huh? if you want to go to a previous page you swipe right…omgggg..so difficult. Windows is stupid, so many fuckin updates every time you log on.RIDICULOUS. never will i ever spend $400 on a computer that does more but still is shitty… XD my $1200 was well spent. I guarantee you, you will not have your windows computer 6 years from now. lol. probably not even 3 years! Just say you can’t afford it. If you could you’d be talking about a computer you built yourself vs a Macbook. rofl!
In response the user named “She”. You are exactly the sort of person who Mac want you to buy their products. Frankly I think you don’t have a deep enough understandings of technology, micro electronics, advertising and marketing to pass a valid comment on Mac vs Pc is better than an equivalent priced PC. Let’s face facts here. You bought a Mac because you thought it was a “cool” object and maybe you thought it was “pretty”. Do you go to coffee shops to show it off too! … It is OK. Have fun with your toy. Hope it was worth all that money. I can be sure if your using a Mac or a PC you personally will not be doing anything life changing with it. Your points are useless. Its not that others can’t afford Mac products its that there are far superior options to choose. Don’t be a sheep. Do your homework next time.
Funny thing, i bought my first computer 11 years ago. It was windows Xp. It is faster then any mac i have used and is still a gem, it will never go down. My brother, bought his mac 5 years ago he’s been looking for the right time to buy a windows computer a year after he bought the mac also known as an overpriced piece of crap.
Ok so they just gave you 10 reasons that mac is literally the worst computer available and you still think mac is good. You must have used your windows computer only for downloading viruses. And the UI is soooo bad like literally right when you get used to using a mac they update it and make it completely different so you have no clue how to do anything on your computer. Also you obviously haven’t used a windows computer since 2009 so maybe you just need to take a break from mac because OS X is a computer virus.
These are the mac fanboys I love. They trash talk the cheap $400 PC they bought and then compare it to a $1200 mac….
If you spent your $1200 on a PC, it would put your $1200 mac to shame.
How is this logical in your mind? You cannot compare two entirely different priced computers complaining that the cheap one is not up to par.
This just proves you did not shop for specs and you bought that mac to feel cool.
Did you ever buy anti-virus and install it on your PC? I always do and yes virus can leak through from time to tome but I always get rid of them myself.
okay then what components does it have?
windows 10 is free…
Pcs are just as expensive if you’re doing higher end things like gaming. Macs dont have all the useless stuff like blu-rays and the likes now, oh thats because it’s a dying media. Everything is cloud/thumb drive/digital based now. If i wanted to watch a blu-ray ill get a blu-ray player or better yet just watch it on a console. It’s really cute that PC users still bash mac even though they can do windows and OS X, but last time a friend tried to do OS X on his PC it sucked so bad that he couldn’t do it. Enjoy paying for windows 10 in a year or 2
HAHA WINDOWS 10 WAS FREE!!!
Duh. You just disproved your point. You can by a faster better machine that plays high end games for the same price or less than your HIPSTER Mac. So why are you bashing pc’s . Don’t justify an oxymoronic point. Its like saying. I’m going to paint my house. This paint is better and drys faster. But I’ll go for the more expensive kind as its in a pretty tin. And I’ll wait longer for it to dry….. Don’t be a sheep do your homework please. Especially if your trying to justify why you bought a Mac.
windows 10 was free and came out 2 months ago. Can’t quite understand your logic about OSX but ok.
my $60 pc disagrees with you
Mac is not good. Agree with the author who wrote this page. I feel that they are only good at making stuff really expensive, suing you to buy it using advertisement or stuff in youtube. In fact, that’s the way apple works – I used to think iPhones are good but they turned out having such a small storage (for an unreasonable price) and those phones are using up battery so quickly. Even those apps ain’t that good and things are simply _expensive_. I’m disappointed with it.
One point to know is that I like the part that macs can switch screen and have several features to multitask.
I really regret buying a Macbook Pro. I thought it was a good choice at the time (I don’t know why), but after using it for a year, I can definitely say that I’ve changed my mind. The best thing this piece of crap can do is crash and freeze all the goddamn time. You could probably get something better for less than half the price.
DON’T. GET. A. MAC.
Wow I wonder how much viruses you must of download.
Agree 10000000%. I have a Mack pro. I was stupid enough to buy of these things.
Have been trying to find a corporate accounting program. Nope can’r get one. Only account online. I’ll be damn if I want to expose my corporate finance on line.
Then I bought the most expensive Architectural program.h a joke that is. Can’t handle 1/.2 of the functions.Then there is all the sites I am using in my business sensitive information with US and canadian Gov. Nope Not comparable. They simply don’t trust Mack. Then I have a sophisticated tracing program that record and send information back to us regarding Equipment performance and condition so we know when something is malfunctioning before the equipment breaks down. NOPE can’t handle it.
Then there is the so called. Spreadsheet???? what a joke that id. Word processing program??? total garbage. Mack will NEVER se another dime from this company. It is total junk garbage and all it is good for is an anchor.
You are an idiot. You can freaking turn on right click for apple mouse in the settings!
Right, the person who wrote an article on MacBooks 6 years ago, is an idiot, for saying they had no right click, and you, six years later, pointing out this setting, are not the idiot?
I bought a macbook air 1.5 year ago and moved from Linux to OSX. It felt good for some time but now i really miss my Linux where everything was up to me. My OSX got really slow and i can’t just reinstall it because i have only 128GB storage, i need to back it up to somewhere before reinstalling. I decided to buy a really powerful machine for nearly same price with my MBA and go back to Linux. I think OSX have nothing superior to Linux besides iOS development which you can do with a virtual machine once you have better hardware. I moved to OSX believing it was good for both designers and developers, now i believe it’s only good for designers.
hehe this is all you isheeps can do on you mac is defend it as in tell everybody that no i didn’t just waste my money on a degraded potato. mean while i just brought a pc equivalent and a car instead
I’ve been using macs since the 80s (and still do) and it’s very simple: macs used to be a niche market that relied on quality and sustained itself on a small, high-paying customer base.
As they went mainstream they started to focus on marketing that image while reducing costs, leading to the travesty that they are today: a computer for the uneducated masses that are too afraid to actually analyze their needs and get the right tool for the job. They rely on narcissism, vanity, fear and ignorance.
If you’re a mac user *and* a mac “fan”, consider your life views, your computer is not the problem, but there’s a certain company capitalizing on your messed up personality.
@Joanna, this is just beautiful. Perfectly sums up what I was thinking for the past few years.
Seriously, none of the people at our company can actually describe why they prefer to use mac. Apart from the ever so stupid “it just works”.. Agh! Everything f$#@&ing does!
agree 100%. No apple fanboy actually knows why his machine is “better”. Macs are for “basic betches”. You can always build a PC for half the money. People who have problems with PC, are idiots who don’t know how to use computers. I have never ever had a problem with PCs. It’s quite simple, don’t watch porn and torrent all ay long.
Has anyone ever looked in the preferences on Ubuntu and Linux Mint,etc? They look exactly the fucking same. So to everyone complaining on how it takes extra clicks to do things, take a look at you preferences. Ever try changing a setting with the windows control panel in the default view with the categories? It is extremely difficult. I also have a late 2006 iMac that runs extremely well to this day. I used MLpostfactor to bring it up to 10.8. Still gets security updates. That is over 9 years of use, and it still runs good. I am typing this on a Late 2013 13″ Macbook Pro. Also, to the idiots that think you can’t run any windows software on a Mac, look up these word-are you ready- Boot Camp. You can run windows. Typical windows users- afraid to try something new.
Really? That’s your answer? Run Windows? Why the hell would I waste $2500 on a mac if what I need is a PC?
Well my PC does Mac OSX as well as Windows and Linux. It cost me a LOT less than an equivalent MAC and guess what ? It runs OSX better than an equivalent Mac. You do realise that Macs are just PC’s using basically the same parts that you can buy off of a shelf at a computer store with the difference being Apple charges you more because they put it in a shiny case with an Apple logo ?. Windows is a better all round OS than OSX which has quite a way to catch up. The finder is possibly the worst file manager I have EVER used (and I’ve used a few on various computers/OSes).
I am curious about Ubuntu. Is it compatible with most things out there? I mean the other day a bunch of us in a group were getting an on line presentation and the only two that couldn’t get it to work were the two using Macs. I wouldn’t want to be in that situation with Ubuntu.
It’s been 2 months since I killed my ASUS laptop with water, so I’m using a 2008 MacBook 5.1, borrowed from work until I can be bothered to buy something decent. Immediately I had to upgrade the RAM, from 2GB to 8GB to make this $2000 (when new) machine able to open more than 5 tabs in Chrome or any browser without hanging all the time. What a ripoff this was when new!
The desktop orientation is terrible, with USB drives, newly saved files, etc automatically positioned on the right hand side of screen, which might make sense for people who’s native language is written right to left, as it is for Arabic, Hebrew, etc, but Apple is an American company, so this is stupid.
The Dock is poorly organised and inferior to all versions of Windows. It should take up a whole line, not be centred and have screen space either side of it, and there should be an indication of which programs (including windows) are open, and which program is the current active program. I believe Windows have gone a bit downhill with the taskbar design since Vista, with the shortcut icons displayed that can sit in between active applications, but at least it’s possible to customise it to work as it did in XP, which was a much cleaner way of displaying everything.
The whole resizing of windows options are simply pathetic. I want to be able to maximise a program I am using to take up all available screen space, but I still want to see the menu bar, with the time, and the dock (no matter how shitty it is), but that is no simple task. Often you just have to manually resize windows, which is slow and pathetic.
But honestly, the biggest problem I have is the keyboard, which is inadequate and slows my productivity even for basic word processing.
The key functions, keyboard layout and keys that were left out,because some idiot thought simplicity is cool is frustrating.
Here are the problems in detail:
1. Fn key in a prominent position at the bottom left when it’s hardly used – stupid
2. Command key is poorly positioned next to the keyboard, requiring some RSI inducing hand movements for many shortcuts.
Command Up/Down to adjust volume in VLC is awkward, but not as bad as Command X and some others.
3. Home/End keys missing. Yeah I know the shortcut and it’s not hard for just moving the cursor, but sometimes when the cursor is in the middle of a line of text I want to highlight to either the beginning or end of the line to copy/cut/delete/etc. Just try doing that one handed and tell me how natural it feels!
And if you connect an external keyboard with the Home/End keys, pressing them will take you to the top/bottom of the screen, which is just idiotic.
4. Enter (return) does not open selected files, but gives you the option to rename.
Which idiot thought renaming files would be more common than wanting to open a file?
MAC OS X & now MAC OS have a simple design, but that doesn’t make them user friendly, unless you conform to their way of thinking, which I won’t.